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TED: COMING UP NEXT ON "ARIZONA HORIZON."

STATE ATTORNEY GENERAL KRIS MAYES JOINS US TO DISCUSS HER PART IN THE RECENT SUPREME COURT DECISION STRIKING DOWN PRESIDENT TRUMP'S TARIFF PROGRAM.

>>> ALSO TONIGHT, IT'S NATIONAL HEART MONTH.

WE'LL HEAR ABOUT PHOENIX CHILDREN'S CENTER FOR HEART CARE.

>>> A NEW REPORT LOOKS AT CHRONIC ABSENTEEISM AMONG ARIZONA SCHOOLKIDS.

THOSE STORIES AND MORE NEXT ON "ARIZONA HORIZON."

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TED: GOOD EVENING, AND WELCOME TO "ARIZONA HORIZON."

I'M TED SIMONS.

ARIZONA ATTORNEY GENERAL KRIS MAYES HELPED LEAD A NUMBER OF STATES IN SUCCESSFULLY OVERTURNING PRESIDENT TRUMP'S TARIFF PROGRAM BY WAY OF A RECENT U.S.

SUPREME COURT DECISION.

THIS AS ARIZONA SENATE REPUBLICANS PASSED A RESOLUTION CALLING FOR MAYES TO STEP DOWN IN RESPONSE TO HER COMMENTS ABOUT I.C.E.

AGENTS AND THE STATE'S STAND YOUR GROUND LAW.

JOINING US TO TALK ABOUT THESE AND OTHER ISSUES, THERE SHE IS, ARIZONA ATTORNEY GENERAL KRIS MAYES.

GOOD TO SEE YOU.

>> GOOD TO BE WITH YOU.

TED: WHOLE LOT TO TALK ABOUT HERE.

>> YEAH.

TED: START WITH THE ARIZONA AND THE SUPREME COURT, ARIZONA LED THE WAY ON THIS, CORRECT?

>> CORRECT.

I CO-LED THE LAWSUIT WITH ATTORNEY GENERAL OF OREGON DAN RAYFIELD, JOINED BY TEN OTHER STATES AND TOOK IT TO THE U.S.

SUPREME COURT.

TRUMP FILED TO FILE THEM UNDER THE LAW CALLED IEPA, AND WE WON IN THE COURT OF INTERNATIONAL TRADE AND THE APPELLATE COURT AND WON IN FRONT OF THE SUPREME COURT, AND THE SUPREME COURT SENT A VERY STRONG MESSAGE, I THINK, THAT TARIFFS ARE TAXES, AND THAT THE POWER TO TAX THE AMERICAN PEOPLE RESTS WITH CONGRESS.

SO YOU HAD PEOPLE LIKE JOHN ROBERTS AND NEIL GORSUCH SAYING TO DONALD TRUMP, NO, HOLD ON, YOU CAN'T DO THIS.

TED: YOU SAID THIS WAS ABOUT THE RULE OF LAW AND AMERICAN DEMOCRACY.

I GOT THE RULE OF LAW, AMERICAN DEMOCRACY MEANS THROUGH WHAT, THROUGH CONGRESS?

>> MEANS THE SEPARATION OF POWERS.

FUNDAMENTALLY THIS LAWSUIT AS WELL AS ALL OF THE 36 LAWSUITS I HAVE FILED AGAINST THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION ARE ABOUT ESSENTIALLY THE SEPARATION OF POWERS.

CONGRESS HAS, IN THIS CASE OF TARIFFS, HAS THE POWER TO TARIFF, AND NO PRESIDENT, WHETHER IT'S DONALD TRUMP OR SOME FUTURE DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENT, HAS THE ABILITY TO SEIZE THAT POWER AND LEVY TARIFFS AGAINST THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.

LET'S REMEMBER, THE TARIFFS, TED, COST THE AVERAGE AMERICAN FAMILY $1300 IN ADDITIONAL COSTS, AND YOU KNOW, THEY DESERVE THAT MONEY BACK, QUITE FRANKLY, AND BUSINESSES ARE DEFINITELY DUE REFUNDS AS WELL.

TED: INTERESTING YOU BRING THAT UP.

IN DISSENT, JUSTICE KAVANAUGH SAID THIS WOULD CREATE A, QUOTE, MESS IN TERMS OF FIGURING OUT WHO GETS THE MONEY, WHERE IT GOES, HOW IT GETS THERE.

THAT'S ONE OF THE BIGGEST REASONS HE VOTED AGAINST THIS.

DOES HE HAVE A BIT OF A POINT?

>> NOT REALLY.

WHEN YOU VIOLATE THE CONSTITUTION, IT'S MESSY.

THE AFTERMATH OF THAT IS MESSY, AND THAT IS TRUE.

IT IS A MESS, AND WE ARE GOING TO HAVE TO -- THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION NEEDS TO BE SETTING UP A REFUND PROCESS, PROBABLY SHOULD DO THAT THROUGH CUSTOMS AND BORDER PROTECTION, CBP, THE ENTITY THAT BRINGS IN THE TARIFFS.

DOESN'T LOOK LIKE THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION IS DOING THAT, AND AS YOU KNOW, THE NEXT DAY HE THREW A TEMPER TANTRUM AND ASSESSED A 15% WORLDWIDE TARIFF WHICH IS TIME LIMITED, NOT SURE WHETHER IT'S LEGAL, BUT DEFINITELY TIME LIMITED.

HE SEEMS BENT ON REALLY HURTING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.

TED: CAVANAUGH ALSO -- JUSTICE KAVANAUGH SAID THE JUDICIARY SHOULDN'T INTERFERE WITH THE PRESIDENT'S FOREIGN POLICY.

AND THE PRESIDENT SAYS HE SEES TRADE DEFICITS, INTERNATIONAL DRUG TRAFFICKING.

THESE ARE EMERGENCY THINGS HE IS ALLOWED TO ADDRESS.

>> YEAH, IT WAS A STRANGE DECISION, AND OBVIOUSLY, YOU KNOW, SIX JUSTICES DISAGREED WITH HIM.

SO, LOOK, FOREIGN POLICY -- THE PRESIDENT ENGAGED IN FOREIGN POLICY IN CERTAIN RESPECTS?

OF COURSE, BUT YOU KNOW, OUR FOUNDING FATHERS IN OUR CONSTITUTION MADE IT CLEAR THE TARIFFS, THE POWER TO TARIFF AND TAX, THE POWER OF THE PURSE RESIDES WITH CONGRESS, AND IT'S VERY CLEAR, AND THEN YOU LOOK AT IEPA, TARIFFS ARE NOT, TED, EVEN MENTIONED IN THAT LAW.

SO IT WAS A PRETTY CLEAR DECISION, AND THE PEOPLE OF ARIZONA WILL BENEFIT FROM THIS.

TED: LAST POINT ON THIS REGARDING IEPA AND HOW IT WASN'T MENTIONED, TARIFFS WEREN'T MENTIONED.

HOWEVER, AN UNUSUAL AND EXTRAORDINARY THREAT IS MENTIONED AND IF THE PRESIDENT SEES THIS, I ASK THE QUESTION BECAUSE THE SUPREME COURT HAS GIVEN HIM A LOT OF LEEWAY AND ROOM TO MOVE BECAUSE IF HE SEES A PROBLEM, IF HE SEES A THREAT, WERE YOU SURPRISED BY THE DECISION?

>> NOT AFTER I ATTENDED THE ORAL ARGUMENTS BECAUSE IT BECAME VERY, VERY CLEAR FROM WHAT THEY WERE SAYING, EVEN THE CONSERVATIVE JUSTICES, THAT THEY SAW THIS ILLEGAL SEIZURE OF POWER BY THE PRESIDENT AS VERY DANGEROUS.

ONE OF THE JUSTICES, I THINK GORSUCH SAID, WHAT IF A FUTURE DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENT DECIDES HE WANTS TO TARIFF EVERY COUNTRY ON THE PLANET BECAUSE THOSE COUNTRIES, IN HIS OR HER MIND, AREN'T DOING ENOUGH ON CLIMATE CHANGE?

SO YOU CAN START TO SEE THE WHEELS MOVING IN PEOPLE'S HEADS, LIKE, OH, WE WOULDN'T WANT THAT, EITHER, WOULD WE?

THIS IS ABOUT THE CONSTITUTION AND THE RULE OF LAW, AND IT WAS A GREAT VICTORY FOR THE RULE OF LAW.

TED: SOUNDS LIKE THE FOLKS IN SURPRISE AREN'T CRAZY ABOUT A PLANNED I.C.E.

FACILITY, DETENTION CENTER, CALL IT WHAT YOU WILL.

WE'VE HAD 1500 TO 10,000, IT SEEMS VAGUE, KRISTI NOEM SENT A LETTER TO PAUL GOSAR OUTLINING THIS.

FIRST OF ALL, YOU SENT A LETTER.

>> I DID.

SHE DIDN'T WRITE BACK TO ME.

TED: WHAT QUESTIONS DO YOU HAVE ABOUT THIS THING?

>> QUESTIONS SIMILAR TO PAUL GOESAR'S, I READ PAUL GOSAR'S LETTER, HE AND I DON'T SHARE A LOT POLITICALLY BUT HE ASKED GOOD QUESTIONS.

I ASKED QUESTIONS ALONG THE LINES OF IS THIS GOING TO CAUSE A NUISANCE FOR THIS COMMUNITY?

AND ALSO ALONG THE LINES OF NOTICE AND OPPORTUNITY FOR THE COMMUNITY TO RESPOND TO IT.

WE DIDN'T GET A RESPONSE, BUT I DO THINK THE PEOPLE OF SURPRISE AND THE STATE OF ARIZONA OWE THE ANSWERS TO THESE QUESTIONS, AND I'LL ALSO SAY THAT, I HAVEN'T TALKED ABOUT THIS YET, I'LL TALK ABOUT IT WITH YOU, MARYLAND JUST FILED A LAWSUIT TODAY AGAINST A SIMILAR FACILITY THERE UNDER NEPA AND THE ADMINISTRATION PROCEDURE'S ACT, THE APA AND I'M LOOKING INTO THAT AS WELL.

TED: AND THE CLAIM WOULD BE?

>> WELL, WHEN THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT ENGAGES IN ANY LARGE-SCALE PROJECT, THEY HAVE TO FOLLOW CERTAIN PROCEDURES UNDER NEPA, WHICH IS AN ENVIRONMENTAL LAW, AND UNDER THE APA, IF THIS IS SOMETHING THAT HAS NOT BEEN DONE BEFORE OR REQUIRES CERTAIN PROCESS.

WE'RE LOOKING AT THAT, AND WE'RE ALSO LOOKING AT THE NUISANCE ASPECT OF THIS.

TED: LET'S TALK ABOUT THE PUBLIC NUISANCE LAW AND HOW THAT WOULD APPLY IN THIS SITUATION, SINCE THIS IS A FEDERAL -- ALMOST LIKE HAVING A MILITARY BASE IN THE MIDDLE OF SURPRISE, IT'S A FEDERAL FACILITY.

>> IT'S INSANE WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT IT.

I MEAN, THE IDEA OF JUST PLOPPING A GIANT PRISON, SUDDENLY WITH NO NOTICE TO THE PEOPLE OF SURPRISE, IN THE MIDDLE OF SURPRISE, THAT COULD HOUSE ANYWHERE, AS YOU SAID BETWEEN 1500 AND 10,000 PEOPLE, AND ALL OF THE ATTENDANT THINGS THAT GO WITH THAT.

WASTE WATER, WATER USAGE, TRAFFIC PATTERNS, CHANGES IN TRAFFIC PATTERNS, EMERGENCY SERVICES, IMPACT TO THE HOSPITALS IN THE REGION.

YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T JUST DO THESE THINGS WITHOUT NOTIFYING THE COMMUNITY AND GIVING THEM AN OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND, AND MAKING SURE IT'S NOT A NUISANCE TO THE COMMUNITY.

TED: AS FAR AS THAT PUBLIC NUISANCE LAW IS CONCERNED, CRITICS AREN'T PLEASED THE WAY YOU'RE USING THE LAW, YOU ARE USING IT BASICALLY AS A CUDGEL, DO THEY HAVE A POINT?

>> I DON'T THINK SO.

I THINK I'M USING IT TO PROTECT THE PEOPLE OF ARIZONA.

THAT'S MY JOB.

I ENFORCE THE LAWS OF THE STATE.

WE HAVE A NUISANCE LAW IN ARIZONA THAT SAYS YOU'RE NOT ALLOWED TO ENGAGE IN ACTIVITIES THAT CAUSE HARM TO THE BROADER COMMUNITY, AND NOT ALLOWED TO HARM THE QUIET ENJOYMENT OF YOUR NEIGHBOR'S PROPERTY.

SO WE'RE USING THAT IN APPROPRIATE WAYS.

WE SUED THE SAUDIS IN WESTERN ARIZONA FOR USING ENORMOUS AMOUNT WATER TO GROW ALFALFA.

I'M LOOKING AT IT RELATED TO THE GIANT I.C.E.

FACILITY IN THE MIDDLE OF SURPRISE.

TED: YOU WENT AFTER A COCHISE COUNTY DAIRY FARM, AND RECYCLING PLANT IS GOING UP AS WELL.

PEOPLE ARE SAYING WHERE IS THE NEGOTIATION FIRST.

SOUNDS LIKE IT'S SHOOT FIRST, ASK QUESTIONS LATER.

>> NOT REALLY.

WE DO EXTENSIVE INVESTIGATION BEFORE WE FILE THE LAWSUITS.

I WORKED ON THE SAUDI CASE FOR TWO YEARS, HIRED A HYDROLOGIST.

IN THE CASE OF THE RIVERVIEW DAIRY IN COCHISE COUNTY, WE SETTLED WITH THEM, THEY CAME TO THE TABLE, BROUGHT SOLUTIONS TO THE TABLE FOR THE COMMUNITY WHOSE WELLS THEY DEWATERED, AND WE GOT THEM TO PUT UP $11 MILLION TO HELP THOSE PEOPLE IN THAT RURAL COMMUNITY.

REDRILLED THEIR WELLS AND GOT THEM TO FALLOW 2,000 ACRES OF LAND TO ALLOW THE AQUIFER TO REPAIR ITSELF.

TED: I SHOULD MENTION THE STATE REPRESENTATIVE FROM THAT PARTICULAR AREA, HE'S THROWN UP THREE BILLS TO REIN YOU IN.

>> IT'S REALLY WEIRD BECAUSE IT'S HIS COMMUNITY I'M HELPING.

HIS CONSTITUENTS WHO WERE CALLING OUT, PLEADING FOR HELP, AND I DON'T KNOW WHY HE DOESN'T WANT TO HELP THEM.

I DON'T KNOW WHY HE WANTS TO STAND UP FOR BIG CORPORATIONS THAT ARE HARMING HIS CONSTITUENTS, BUT I AM GOING TO STAND UP FOR CONSTITUENTS.

TED: LAST POINT ON THIS, I THINK WHAT HE WAS SAYING IS WHERE IS THE NEGOTIATION FIRST AS OPPOSED TO -- >> HE MIGHT NOT HAVE BEEN PAYING ATTENTION TO WHAT WAS GOING ON DOWN THERE AND WHAT WE WERE DOING, BUT WE BASICALLY NEGOTIATED FOR A YEAR AND CAME UP WITH A REALLY, REALLY IMPORTANT GROUNDBREAKING DEAL THEY THINK WILL SERVE AS A TEMPLATE GOING FORWARD FOR OTHER COMMUNITIES THAT MAY BE HURT.

>> I CAN'T LET YOU GO WITHOUT COMMENTING ON YOUR COMMENTS REGARDING CONFRONTATIONS WITH I.C.E.

AGENTS.

WE HAVEN'T HAD YOU IN SINCE YOU MADE THOSE PARTICULAR COMMENT.

THE GOVERNOR BASICALLY -- WHAT WERE YOU TRYING TO SAY, SOUNDS LIKE THE QUESTIONS WERE LEGITIMATE.

WHAT DO YOU DO IF YOU DON'T KNOW THAT SOMEONE IS AN I.C.E.

AGENT?

>> I MEAN, LOOK AT WHAT JUST HAPPENED IN THE LAST COUPLE OF DAYS, TED.

WE JUST SAW A WHISTLE-BLOWER ON CAPITOL HILL COME OUT AND SAY -- FOR I.C.E., HE WORKED FOR I.C.E., NO LONGER DOES, AND CAME OUT AND SAID -- HE TOLD THE WHOLE WORLD HE WAS INSTRUCTED TO SECRETLY TRAIN I.C.E.

OFFICERS TO VIOLATE THE 4th AMENDMENT.

IN OTHER WORDS, TO BREAK DOWN DOORS WITHOUT A JUDICIAL WARRANT.

WHAT I WAS TRYING TO DO WAS TO SAY, NUMBER ONE, IT'S NOT OKAY FOR THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT TO VIOLATE, OR ANYBODY, TO VIOLATE THE 4th AMENDMENT.

WE DON'T DO THAT IN THE STATE OF ARIZONA, IN AMERICA.

AND NUMBER TWO, THAT IS A DANGEROUS SITUATION, RIGHT?

IT'S A DANGEROUS SITUATION.

ALSO TO HAVE FEDERAL AGENTS WEARING MASKS IN A WAY THAT YOU CAN'T IDENTIFY THEM.

THAT IS NOT REAL POLICING.

REAL POLICE OFFICERS DON'T WEAR MASKS.

TED: BUT LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES ARE BASICALLY SAYING THAT WHAT YOU SAID WAS IRRESPONSIBLE AND IT WAS TOO MUCH.

>> NOT ALL LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCIES.

TED: NO, BUT SOME WERE SAYING IT'S TOO MUCH AND ONLY INFLAME A COMBUSTIBLE SITUATION.

>> I THINK I CALLED IT A COMBUSTIBLE SITUATION.

I MEAN, I DON'T KNOW WHY IT'S NOT A COMBUSTIBLE SITUATION WHEN YOU HAVE I.C.E.

BEING TRAINED TO BREAK DOWN PEOPLE'S DOORS AND VIOLATE THE 4th AMENDMENT?

THAT IS A TERRIBLE SITUATION.

I'VE BEEN ASKED BY PEOPLE WHAT DO I DO IF THAT HAPPENS?

MY ANSWER IS CALL 911.

CALL 911.

IF SOMEBODY IS BREAKING DOWN YOUR DOOR, AND YOU KNOW, YOU HAVE EVERY RIGHT TO CALL 911 AND CALL MY OFFICE AS WELL.

TED: BUT ARIZONA HAS THE STAND YOUR GROUND LAW.

>> WE DO.

TED: THAT'S WHERE THINGS GOT A LITTLE -- >> I GUESS IT WAS CONTROVERSIAL TO POINT THAT OUT.

I DON'T KNOW.

YOU CAN EXPLAIN THAT TO ME.

TED: THE GOVERNOR BASICALLY SAID THAT YOU SHOULD RETRACT THOSE STATEMENTS.

THOSE WERE NOT NECESSARILY THE SMARTEST THINGS TO SAY.

WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THAT?

>> I THINK SHE MAYBE FORGOT TO WATCH THE VIDEO I PUT OUT AND CLARIFIED MY STATEMENTS.

WHAT I WANT IS TO PROTECT LAW ENFORCEMENT AND PROTECT ARIZONANS BY SAYING WE DON'T ACCEPT VIOLATIONS OF THE 4th AMENDMENT, AND CALL 911 AND WE WANT A SAFE ENVIRONMENT WHERE LAW ENFORCEMENT PROTECTS THE PEOPLE OF ARIZONA.

TED: WHEN THE ARIZONA POLICE ASSOCIATION BASICALLY SAYS -- BASICALLY, ESSENTIALLY SAYS WHAT YOU DID WAS DOG WHISTLING, IT'S OKAY TO ASSAULT POLICE OFFICERS, IT'S OKAY TO SHOOT OFFICERS.

HOW DO YOU RESPOND?

>> SO OUTRAGEOUS, SO RIDICULOUS AND OUTRAGEOUS AND THE OVERWHELMING RESPONSE TO THOSE COMMENTS WAS COME ON.

PEOPLE KNEW WHAT I WAS SAYING, AND PEOPLE KNOW THEY WANT TO PROTECT LAW ENFORCEMENT, AND THAT I BELIEVE IN LOCAL LAW ENFORCEMENT, AND THEY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT I.C.E.

IS NOT VIOLATING THE AMERICAN CONSTITUTION.

TED: COULD YOU HAVE STATED IT A LITTLE DIFFERENTLY?

>> I MEAN, PERHAPS, BUT I THINK THEN I'D CLARIFIED IT MULTIPLE TIMES.

I'M NOT SURE HOW MANY TIMES I NEED TO CLARIFY THAT STATEMENT.

I THINK I JUST DID FOR ABOUT THE SIXTH TIME.

TED: OKAY, ALL RIGHT.

POLICE LIAISON RESIGNED?

WAS THAT ALL THIS?

>> YOU KNOW I CAN'T TALK ABOUT THAT.

THAT'S A PERSONNEL MATTER.

LEAVE IT AT THAT.

TED: SO HE RESIGNED BUT YOU -- OKAY.

LAST QUESTION HERE.

ARE YOU STILL HEARING THAT I.C.E.

IS RAMPING UP OR PREPARED TO RAMP UP OPERATIONS IN ARIZONA, IN WHICH CASE YOUR COMMENTS WOULD BE OF NOTE?

>> YEAH.

WE CAN SEE THAT THEY'RE RAMPING UP BECAUSE OUR OFFICE IS LITERALLY RIGHT NEXT DOOR TO THEIRS.

SO WE SHARE A LANDLORD WITH I.C.E., BELIEVE IT OR NOT, AND WE SHARE A PARKING LOT.

IN BETWEEN THEIR BUILDING AND OUR BUILDING IS A PARKING LOT AND I CAN SEE THEM RAMPING UP.

WE CAN SEE THEM BRINGING IN MORE BODIES, MORE PEOPLE, MORE CARS, DEFINITELY RAMPING UP IN ARIZONA.

TED: WHAT CAN THE ATTORNEY GENERAL DO ABOUT THE FEDERAL OPERATION?

>> LOOK, I CAN CONTINUE TO MAKE IT CLEAR WE WILL NOT ACCEPT VIOLATIONS OF THE 4th AMENDMENT.

I DON'T THINK THEY SHOULD BE WEARING MASKS.

I'M THE TOP LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICER OF THE STATE OF ARIZONA, AND I CAN ALSO SAY THIS: EVEN THOUGH ICE IS RAMPING UP, TED, WHAT IS HAPPENING IS THAT DONALD TRUMP IS TAKING DEA AGENTS, FBI, ATF, HSI OUT OF ARIZONA TO SEND THEM TO PLACES LIKE MINNEAPOLIS AND WASHINGTON, D.C., AND L.A.

TO RUN AROUND AFTER HARD-WORKING LANDSCAPERS AND GARDENERS AND DO IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT ON THE INTERIOR OF THE COUNTRY WHEN THOSE FBI AND DEA AGENTS SHOULD BE RIGHT HERE IN ARIZONA HELPING ME FIGHT THE MEXICAN DRUG CARTEL.

DONALD TRUMP IS MAKING ARIZONA LESS SAFE FROM A LAW ENFORCEMENT STANDPOINT BECAUSE HE KEEPS TAKING ALL THESE AGENTS OFF OF THE BORDER.

THIS GUY HAS ACTUALLY LOST SIGHT OF BORDER SECURITY.

IT'S INTERESTING.

TED: COULD NOT BE ARGUED THEY'RE NOT NEEDED DOWN THERE ANYMORE BECAUSE THE SITUATION ISN'T WHAT IT WAS?

>> ARE YOU KIDDING ME?

50% OF THE FENTANYL IN THE UNITED STATES SEIZED IN THE LAST THREE YEARS HAS BEEN SEIZED IN ARIZONA.

OF COURSE THEY'RE NEEDED HERE.

THE FIGHT AGAINST MEXICAN DRUG CARTELS IS RIGHT HERE IN ARIZONA, AND I'M ON THE FRONT LINES OF THAT BECAUSE I DO 80% OF THE PROSECUTIONS AGAINST THE MEXICAN DRUG CARTELS, AND YET THEY'RE TAKING DEA AGENTS AND SENDING THEM TO OTHER PARTS OF THE COUNTRY.

THOSE DEA AGENTS NORMALLY WOULD BE HERE HELPING ME FIGHT THE CARTELS.

THEY CAN'T ANYMORE BECAUSE THEY'RE RUNNING AROUND AFTER GARDENERS, LANDSCAPERS AND MAIDS.

TED: ARIZONA ATTORNEY GENERAL KRIS MAYES.

ATTORNEY GENERAL MAYES, GOOD TO HAVE YOU HERE, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> GOOD TO BE WITH YOU.

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TED: FEBRUARY IS NATIONAL HEART MONTH, AND WITH THAT IN MIND, WE LOOK AT ONE OF THE LARGEST PEDIATRIC HEART CARE PROVIDERS IN THE COUNTRY, PHOENIX CHILDREN'S HEART CARE CENTER, THE LARGEST PROVIDER OF PEDIATRIC HEART CARE IN THE SOUTHWEST.

WE WELCOME IN DR.

ANDREW PAPEZ, DIVISION CHIEF OF CENTER FOR HEART CARE.

THANKS FOR BEING HERE, AND GIVE ME A BETTER DEFINITION OF THE CHILDREN'S CENTER FOR HEART CARE?

>> WELL, WE CARE FOR ALL FACETS OF CHILDREN AND YOUNG ADULTS WITH CONGENITAL HEART CONDITIONS, ACQUIRED HEART CONDITIONS AND INHERITED HEART CONDITIONS.

CENTER FOR HEART CARE ENCOMPASSES NOT JUST CARDIOLOGISTS BUT SURGEONS, INTENSIVISTS, ANESTHESIOLOGISTS, NURSES, EVERYBODY COMING TOGETHER FOR THAT ONE GROUP.

TED: HOW MUCH CHANGE IN PEDIATRIC CARDIOLOGY HAVE YOU SEEN IN THE PAST YEAR.

SEEMS LIKE THE PROFESSION IS EXPLODING OVERALL, SAME THING WITH KIDS?

>> SAME WITH KIDS.

CONGENITAL HEART DISEASE IS ONE OF THE MOST CONGENITAL HEART CONDITIONS.

MOST OF THAT IS NOT PARTICULARLY SERIOUS BUT ABOUT 25% OF THAT GROUP HAVE LIFE THREATENING CONGENITAL HEART CONDITIONS THAT REQUIRE INTERVENTION IN THE FIRST HOURS TO DAYS OF LIFE.

TED: WOW.

>> OVER THE LAST 30 YEARS, THE MORTALITY IN THAT GROUP DROPPED BY HALF, AND THAT'S ALL DUE TO RESEARCH AND INNOVATION IN THE FIELD.

>> I WANT TO TALK MORE ABOUT THE RESEARCH ASPECT, THE RESEARCH ASPECT IS INVOLVED WITH DIAGNOSIS, TREATMENT, CARE.

ALL OF THIS, RIGHT?

>> ABSOLUTELY.

YOU KNOW, IT USED TO BE THE CARDIOLOGISTS' ONLY TOOL WAS A STETHOSCOPE, AND SOMEBODY REALIZED THE HEART GIVES OFF ELECTRICAL WAVES AND ADDED ULTRASOUND TO IT.

NOW WE CAN FREEZE THE HEART IN A CT SCANNER, SHOW AN MRI OF THE ACTUAL HEART BEATING, AND THE THINGS THAT ARE COMING DOWN THE PIPE ARE MORE EXCITING.

TED: IS THAT CLINICAL RESEARCH A MAJOR PART OF WHAT YOU DO?

>> IT IS.

TWO ASPECTS OF WHAT WE DO.

CLINICAL CARE IS THE BULK OF IT, BUT THEN AT THE SAME TIME, WE'RE ALWAYS ASKING OURSELVES, WHAT CAN WE DO TO MAKE THIS BETTER.

WE COLLABORATE WITH COLLEAGUES AROUND THE COUNTRY AT OTHER HEART CENTERS TO JOIN FORCES TO FIND THOSE BETTER SOLUTIONS.

TED: SO THERE IS COLLABORATION, I WAS GOING TO ASK HOW MUCH COLLABORATION IS DONE.

>> OH, ABSOLUTELY.

THERE ARE VERY LIMITED NUMBERS OF CARDIAC CENTERS, EVEN THROUGHOUT THE UNITED STATES, AND THE WORLD AS WELL.

IT'S A VERY SMALL COMMUNITY.

EVERYBODY KNOWS EVERYBODY.

EVEN THE PHYSICIANS AND THE PROVIDERS HERE.

WE ALL TRAINED -- MOST OF US TRAINED AT OTHER PLACES AND BRING THOSE IDEAS AND THAT EXPERIENCE HERE TO A GIANT MIXING BOWL OF INNOVATION FOR THE KIDS.

>> BEST PRACTICES AND BEST EXAMPLE.

YOU MENTIONED ADULTS FROM BEFORE BIRTH TO ADULTHOOD AND BEYOND?

HOW FAR BEYOND?

>> WELL, WE TAKE PATIENCE, SOME IN THEIR 50s, 60s, 70S.

>> WHY IS THAT IMPORTANT?

HOW DOES THAT WORK HERE?

>> YOU KNOW, PEOPLE FOCUS ON THE WORD PEDIATRIC, PEDIATRIC CARDIOLOGY OR PHOENIX CHILDREN'S HOSPITAL.

WE FOCUS ON CONGENITAL HEART CONDITIONS.

THESE ARE CONDITIONS THAT PEOPLE ARE BORN WITH AND THEY NEVER GO AWAY, SO IT'S IMPORTANT TO HAVE SOMEONE CARING FOR THESE PATIENTS WHO UNDERSTAND THE JOURNEY THEY'VE BEEN THROUGH BECAUSE THAT HELPS ANTICIPATE THE CHALLENGES THEY'RE GOING TO FACE LATER IN LIFE.

>> I WAS GOING TO SAY, I IMAGINE THERE IS MORE TO IT THAN JUST THE CLINICAL RESEARCH AND THE HARD MEDICINE.

THERE'S ALSO THAT PSYCHOLOGICAL, THAT SOCIAL, THE COUNSELING, THAT STUFF IS IMPORTANT AS WELL, IS IT NOT?

>> 100%.

AND IT'S NOT JUST FOR THE PATIENTS, TOO.

WE TAKE CARE OF THE ENTIRE FAMILY.

FORTUNATELY, THERE ARE KIDS THAT ARE IN AND OUT OF THE HOSPITAL IN A DAY OR TWO.

WE HAVE SOME THAT ARE THERE FOR WEEKS, MONTHS OR SOMETIMES OVER A YEAR.

WHEN YOU'RE THERE THAT LONG, WE -- IT'S NOT JUST THE CARE OF THE PATIENT, BUT THE CARE OF THE FAMILY.

THEY'RE GIVING UP A LOT TO DEDICATE THEIR LIVES AND REARRANGE TO TAKE CARE OF THAT PATIENT.

THE LEAST WE CAN DO IS HELP THEM OUT IN THAT JOURNEY.

TED: ARE THERE SYMPTOMS PARENTS SHOULD WATCH OUT FOR?

GENERAL SYMPTOMS TO BE AWARE OF?

>> THERE ARE, THERE ARE THE TYPICAL, CHEST PAIN, FAINTING, THINGS LIKE THAT.

I ALMOST THINK MORE IMPORTANTLY IS THE SIXTH SENSE.

WHEN YOU KNOW THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG WITH YOUR CHILD.

OR IF YOU'RE THE PATIENT, YOU KNOW, THAT WASN'T QUITE RIGHT.

PAYING ATTENTION TO THAT SIXTH SENSE AND SEEKING CARE AND GETTING IT CHECKED OUT IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN EVEN THE CHEST PAIN, THE FEELING FAINT.

THE OTHER SYMPTOMS THAT PEOPLE LIST.

TED: DOCTOR, CONGRATULATIONS ON ALL YOUR WORK AND THE SUCCESS AT THE CENTER.

IT'S GREAT WORK, WE'RE PROUD OF YOU.

AND CONTINUED SUCCESS.

>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.

I APPRECIATE IT.

TED: YOU BETCHA.

GOOD TO HAVE YOU HERE.

>> THANKS FOR HAVING ME.

TED: THAT'S IT FOR NOW.

I'M TED SIMONS.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.

YOU HAVE A GREAT EVENING.