♪♪ >> Ted: COMING UP NEXT ON ARIZONA HORIZON, THE DAY AFTER THE SUPER BOWL, THE ECONOMIC IMPACT, THE SPORT'S AND TOURISM SECTOR.

A BIG PART OF THAT SECTOR IS SPRING TRAINING BASEBALL AND SOME PRETTY SIGNIFICANT RULE'S CHANGES FOR BASEBALL THIS YEAR.

A LOCAL COMPANY WORKING TO DEVELOP A VACCINE AGAINST CANCER.

THOSE STORIES AND MORE NEXT ON ARIZONA HORIZON.

>> Ted: WELCOME TO ARIZONA HORIZON.

I'M TED SIMONS.

THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION ADDRESSED CONCERNS OVER U.S.

FIGHTER JETS SHOOTING DOWN OBJECTS OVER U.S.

AIRSPACE AND AN OBJECT WAS SHOT DOWN THAT SOMETHING WAS SHOT DOWN AND IT WAS A SURVEILLANCE CHINESE BALLOON LAST WEEK AND RECENTLY, IT HAS RADAR CAPABILITIES AND PARTIALLY EXPLAINING WHAT'S GOING ON.

>> IN LIGHT OF THE CHINESE BALLOON PROGRAM AND THIS RECENT INCURSION SPOT AIRSPACE, THE UNITED STATES AND CANADA THROUGH NO REMARK ORAD HAVE BEEN ENHANCING RADAR CAPABILITIES, WHICH HAS THE COMMANDER OF NORTH COMMON NORAD SAID LAST NIGHT MAY AT LEAST PARTIALLY EXPLAIN THE INCREASE AND THE OBJECTS DETECTED.

>> Ted: IF THEY WERE SHOT DOWN TO A THREAT TO CIVILIAN AIR TRAFFIC, THE WHITE HOUSE SAID THAT THERE WAS NO INDICATION THAT THE AS YET UNIDENTIFIED FLYING OBJECT WAS THE OTHER KIND OF UFOS.

>> THERE IS NO, AGAIN NO INDICATION OF ALIENS OR EXTRA TERTERTERRESTRIAL ACTIVITIES WITH THESE TAKE-DOWNS AND I WANTED TO MAKE SURE YOU ALL KNEW THAT AND IMPORTANT TO SAY THAT.

>> Ted: OTHER NEWS, FIRST LADY, JILL BIDEN, VISITED MESA COMMUNITY COLLEGES FOR A SCHOLARSHIP COLLEGE AND THE APPEARANCE REITERATED THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION PLEDGE TO PROVIDE TWO YEARS OF COMMUNITY COLLEGE EDUCATION TUITION FREE.

AND A NEW CDC SHOWS TEENAGERS, ESPECIALLY GIRLS ARE EXPERIENCING MORE VIOLENCE, SUICIDAL THOUGHTS AND MENTAL HEALTH CHALLENGES.

THE NUMBERS DATE BACK TO 2021 AND SHOW 57% OF TEEN GIRLS FELT PERTINENTLY SAD OR HOPELESS WAS DOUBLE RATE FOR BOYS AND A A THIRD CONSIDERED SUICIDE.

THEY SAY THE NUMBERS ARE WORSE FOR LGBT USE.

ALMOST A THIRD OF LGBTQ PLUS WERE BULLIED ONLINE AND A QUARTERED AT SCHOOL AND MORE THAN ONE IN TEN DID NOT GO TO SCHOOL BECAUSE OF SAFETY CONCERN.

TRAGICALLY ALMOST HALF SERIOUSLY CONSIDERED SUICIDE.

AND NEARLY ONE IN FOUR ATTEMPTED SUICIDE.

THIS IS DEVASTATING.

>> Ted: THEY SAY THE METRICS HAVE INCREASED, QUOTE DRAMATICALLY OVER THE PAST TEN YEARS.

>>> YESTERDAY'S SUPER BOWL AND THE EVENTS LEADING UP TO THE GAME WERE BY MOST ACCOUNTS A SUCCESS AND THE COMMON SENSE INSTITUTE PUTS THE OVERALL IMPACT ON THE SPORTS AND TOURISM SECTOR AND JOINING US NOW IS KATIE RATLIEF AND GLENN FARLEY OF POLICY AND RESEARCH AND THANK YOU BOTH FOR JOINING YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> THANK YOU, TED.

>> Ted: THIS IS A REPORT ON THE OVERALL IMPACT FROM YEAR'S PAST AND EVENTS PAST IF.

>> IN 2015, IT WAS ESTIMATED THAT SUPER BOWL HAD A $715 MILLION IMPACT TO THE STATE AND WE WANTED TO TAKE A LOOK AT, WHAT DOES THE TOURISM IN SPORT'S INDUSTRY MEAN FOR OUR STATE ALL YEAR EVERY YEAR?

IT WAS VERY STRONG HOSPITALITY AND A LOT OF GREAT ENTERTAINMENT AND WE HAVE 15 PROFESSIONAL SPORT'S TEAMS AND ALL FOUR ARE REPRESENTED AND IT'S A $24 BILLION IMPACT EVERY YEAR ON STATE'S ECONOMY AND THAT'S 6% OF OUR ECONOMY.

>> Ted: THAT'S A LOT.

I WAS GOING TO ASK FOR A DEFINITION MY YOU GAVE.

A DEFINITION OF THE TOURISM AND SPORT'S SECTOR AND WHAT ARE THE OTHER THINGS?

>> IT'S A GREAT QUESTION BECAUSE IT'S NOT SUCH A BLACK AND WHITE THING AND IT'S AND IT'S A MIX AND MEASURED BY THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT.

BE HAVE ACCOMMODATIONS AND PROFESSIONAL SERVICES WHERE YOUR TRAVEL AGENTS WILL SHOW UP AND ELEMENTS OF RESTAURANT AND BAR THAT WE DON'T CAR, REGULAR RESTAURANT AND BAR AND ELEMENTS OF RETAIL AND IT'S.

>> Ted: AND 24 24 BILLION AND GROSS DOMESTIC PRODUCT IN 202 2022 AND THIS IS BEFORE THE SUPER BOWL HERE AND THEY RISING GRADUALLY AND WHAT ARE THEY DOING.

>> PROJECTING THAT IT WILL CONTINUE TO GROW AND PART OF THAT IS BECAUSE OF THE SUPER BOWL AND IT'S THIS VIRTUOUS CYCLE WITH A STRONG TOURISM IN SPORT'S INDUSTRY TO ATTRACT AN EVENT AND WE HAVE SEVERAL GREAT EVENTS AND WE HAVE THE WASTE MANAGEMENT PHOENIX OPEN AND WE HOST SPRING TRAINING AND WE'RE KNOWN AS AN AMAZING DESTINATION FOR THE SUPER BOWL.

AND THEN, EVENTS LIKE THE GAME YESTERDAY ATTRACT MORE TOURISM AND MORE PEOPLE WHO MAYBE WHO HAVEN'T BEEN TO ARIZONA BUT WHO CAME TO SEE THEIR TEAM PLAY AND STICK AROUND AND HEAD TO THE GRAND CANYON AND GO OUT FOR A HIKE.

WE HOPE THEY'LL COME BACK AND IT WILL CONTINUE TO MARKET OUR STATE ON A NATIONAL AND REALLY GLOBAL SCALE.

>> Ted: GLENN, WHERE IS THE MONEY GOING?

TO HOTELS AND YOU NEED LOVING AND WHERE DOES THE MONEY GO TO?

>> THAT'S NEXT IN QUESTION AND ONE OF THE FINDINGS IN THE REPORT.

WE WANTED TO HIGHLIGHT THE INDIRECT AND ONE OF THE MOST SIGNIFICANTLY BENEFITED SECTORS IN THE ARIZONA ECONOMY IS CONSTRUCTION.

SO OF THE $24 BILLION IMPACT, ROUGHLY 20% OF THAT SHOWS UP IN THE CONSTRUCTION INDUSTRY AND IT'S CREATED TO BUILD HOTELS ONCE THEIR BUILT AND BUILD NEW HOUSING AND SUPPORT EMPLOYMENT.

>> Ted: AS FAR AS JOBS, WHAT NUMBERS ARE THERE?

>> 170,000 JOBS, ROUGHLY, DIRECTLY IN THE SPORT'S AND TOURISM AND 190,000 JOBS, ROUGHLY, INDIRECTLY SUPPORTED BY THE SECTOR.

>> Ted: YOU KNOW, HOW IS THIS KIND OF THING RESEARCHED HOW DO YOU COME COME UP WITH THESE NUMBERS?

>> WE DO DYNAMIC MODELS AND TAKE THE DIFFERENT INDUSTRY SECTORS AND UNDERSTAND THE IMPACT THAT THEY HAVE DIRECTLY IN TERMS OF DIRECT SALES AND WHAT DO HOTEL REVENUES LOOK LIKE.

>> WHAT DOES THAT MEAN AND WHAT BENEFITS DO YOU SEE ACROSS THE ECONOMY AS A RESULT OF PEOPLE COMING HERE, SPENDING MONEY AT RESTAURANTS?

WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO HAVE THAT MONEY EMPLOYEE?

WE CAN MODEL WHAT IT MEANS FOR THE ECONOMY AND WHAT GROWTH DO WE COMMUNITY.

>> Ted: CAN YOU MODEL WHAT YOU SEE IN THE FUTURE?

YOU ARE RELATIVELY NEW AND SOMETHING THAT -- CHECK THAT QUESTION.

IT'S POST-OPIOID POST-COVID TIMES AND ARE THINGS MODELED HERE?

>> THIS WAS DISPROPORTIONATE IMPACTED AND PEOPLE WEREN'T TRAVELING AS MUCH AND SOME AMENITIES WEREN'T OPEN AND AVAILABLE, BUT THEY HAVE NOTHING BUT GROWTH POTENTIAL AND OPPORTUNITY AND LIKE I SAID, THAT'S DRIVEN BY THE SUPER BOWL AND I THINK ONE OF THE INTERESTING THINGS ABOUT THE REPORT WAS WE FOUND THIS HAS A DISPROPORTIONATE IMPACT TO RURAL ARIZONA.

OUR STATE HAS 31 STATE PARKS, 24 NATIONAL PARKS AND THOSE ARE LARGELY IN RURAL COMMUNITIES.

THOSE ECONOMIES BENEFIT A LOT FROM TOURISM AND FROM PEOPLE HA COMEWHO COME SO SEE THE NATIONAL TOURISTS.

>> Ted: ESPECIALLY FOR FOLKS WHO HAVE NO IDEA WHAT ARIZONA IS ABOUT.

ARIZONA'S ECONOMY IS GROWING OVERALL.

>> THEN IF WE GO BACK TO KATIE'S RESPONSE, PRE-COVID TIMES.

THE TOURISM WAS GROWING AND WE HAD MASSIVE TOURISM AND IT BOUNCED BACK, ESPECIALLY COMPARED TO OTHER STATES AND WHAT OUR MODEL PROJECTS, WE'RE GROWING AT 3% A YEAR IN THE NEXT TEN YEARS AND INCREASE A SHARE OF THE ECONOMY.

AND IT'S 6% TODAY AND IT'S GROWING FASTER.

>> Ted: WHAT DID YOU WANT TO SEE FROM POLICY MAKERS AND WHAT CAN ACCELERATE THESE GOOD NUMBERS?

>> GREAT QUESTION.

I THINK TO CONTINUE TO MARKET OUR STATE ON A NATIONAL AND GLOBAL SCALE, TO TALK ABOUT ALL OF THE WONDERFUL REASONS TO COME TO ARIZONA, TO INVEST IN MARKETING, TO CONSIDER THIS A RURAL ECONOMIC DEVELOPMENT OPPORTUNITY, TO INVEST IN STATE PARKS AND TO SELLING PARKS, PEOPLE INSIDE OUR STATE AND MAYBE WHO HAVE NOT BEEN BEFORE BUT OUTSIDE OF THE STATE.

>> Ted: KATIE RATLIEF AND GLENN FARLEY, THANK YOU.

>>> CACTUS LEAGUE FANS WILL SEE CHANGES IN THE WAY BASEBALL IS PLAYED THIS YEAR.

>> Ted: SOME REAL CHANGES ARE SET TO START FOR BASEBALL THIS YEAR AND FOR MORE ON HOW THE CHANGES WILL AFFECT THE GAME, WE WELCOME BILL HILL WHO IS AT THE CRONKITE SCHOOL OF JOURNALISM AND GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN.

AND IS THIS ONE OF THE BIGGEST CHANGES WE'VE SEEN IN BASEBALL IN QUITE SOME TIME?

>> VERY MUCH SO.

TWO OF THE CHANGE ARE HUGE CHANGES AND THEY WERE BASICALLY SUPPOSED TO FIX THE GAME AND THE FANS ENJOY THE GAME MORE.

>> Ted: BEFORE WE GET TO THE CHANGES, PLAYERS AND OWNERS ARE ON BOARD?

>> PLAYERS DON'T LOVE HOW THE RULES WERE ENABLED ENACTED AND THEY HAVE A BIG JUDGMENT.

>> Ted: FANS WILL GO TO THE GAMES AND MAYBE SEE THE CLOCK AND I DON'T KNOW WHERE THE CLOCK IS PUT UP IN STADIUMS.

AND 15 SECONDS BETWEEN PITCHES HEN THE BASES ARE EMPTY, TRUE?

>> 15 SECONDS WHEN THEY'RE EMPTY AND 20 WITH A RUNNER ON BASE.

>> Ted: WILL THERE BE A CLOCK?

>> OUT IN CENTER FIELD.

>> Ted: WHAT'S THE PENALTY AND AN DREWDRIVEPENALTY?IS IT THE MOVEMENT?

>> WHEN THE FOOT MOVES.

>> THAT'S WHEN THE CLOCK STOPS.

>> Ted: WHAT ABOUT BATTERS?

>> THE MOST INTERESTING THING ABOUT THE BATTERS, THEY CAN STOP OUT ONCE TO FIX THEIR BATTING GLOVES AND THEY HAVE TO BE IN THE BOX EIGHT SECONDS BEFORE THE CLOCK EXPIRES.

>> Ted: THERE'S 30 SECONDS IN BETWEEN AND IS THAT TRUE?

>> 30 SECONDS AT-BATS.

SO ONCE THEY PLAY ENDS, THEY HIT A SINGLE AND RIGHT FIELD AND THROW THE BALL INTO THE IN-FIELD AND AT THAT POINT, THE BLOCK BEGINS.

>> Ted: WHAT IF THEY DIDN'T GET THERE IN TIME?

>> HE TAKES A STRIKE.

>> Ted: HOLY SMOKES.

YOU WON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING IN THE STAND AND IS THERE A WAY TO UNDERSTAND THAT AND HALF THE TIME, YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT'S AN INESSENTIAL WALK.

INTENTIONAL WALK.

>> THEY WON'T REALLY TOTALLY ADJUST AND IN APRIL, THAT'S WHEN THE REAL ADJUSTMENT WILL BEGIN.

>> Ted: THERE'S A TWO PICK-OFF PLAYS PER AT BAT FOR FIRST BASE?

>> YES.

>> Ted: FIRST BASE OR ANY BASE?

YOUR FIRST AND I STEP OFF OR THROW OVER ONCE AND THROW OVER TWICE AND WHAT'S TO KEEP YOU FOR GOING HALFWAY DOWN THE BASE PASS?

>> HE CAN THROW OVER ONE MORE TIME AND IF YOU DON'T PICK HIM OFF, HE GOES TO SECOND.

>> Ted: WILL HE SEE PICK-OFF PLAYS AT SECOND BASE?

IF THE RUNNER IS RUNNING, WOULDN'T YOU THROW TO SECOND OR DOES IT?

DOES IT PICK OFF TO ANY BASE?

>> IF HE SEES THE RUNNER GOING, HE CAN THROW IT TO SECOND IF HE WANTS TO.

>> Ted: SHIFTS, IF YOU WANT NINE IN THE INFIELD, YOU CAN'T DO THAT ANYMORE.

>> NO, NOT IN THEFIELD.

YOU HAVE TO HAVE FOUR INFIELDERS, TWO ON EACH SIDE OF SECOND BASE.

>> Ted: IN THE DIRT OR CLOSER?

>> IN THE DIRT.

>> Ted: NOT CAMPIN' OUT.

WHAT HAPPENS IF A GUY HAS HIS FOOT ON THE GRASS INSTEAD OF THE DIRT?

>> A STRIKE -- A BALL -- THE PITCHER WILL BE PENALIZED.

>> Ted: MY HEAD IS SPINNING HERE.

THETHE BASE ARE BIGGER.

ARE THEY JUST LARGER.

>> INSTEAD OF 15-INCHES, THEY'RE 18-INCHES.

THERE WERE TWO MANY COLLISIONS WITH RUNNERS AND FIRST BASEMEN.

AND I DON'T THINK IT WILL IMPACT THE GAME GREATLY.

FOOT THOUGH,GUYS STEALING A BASE, FOUR AND HALF INCHES CLOSER.

>> Ted: THE TAGS ARE CLOSE, AREN'T THEY IN.

>> THE BIGGER BASES, MANY THE RUNNERS WON'T SLIDE OVER THEM.

>> Ted: THE HALF THE TIME, YOU TAG THEM AND YOU WON THE THING.

YOU'RE A LONG TIME BASEBALL WRITER AND ONE MORE QUESTION BEFORE WE FOUND OUT THAT EXTRA INNING THING, THAT WAS AN EXPERIMENT AND IT'S NOT AN EXPERIMENT THING?

>> THE GHOST RUNNER IS HERE TO STAY.

I'M A PURIST.

IF IT'S A TIE BALLGAME, LET PLAY IT TO THE END.

>> Ted: WHAT ARE THE REASONS AND WHAT'S GOING ON HERE?

>> WITH THAT, THINK, YOU KNOW, THEY LIKE TO SAY ALL OF THE RULE CHANGES BENEFIT THE FANS AND MANAGERS DON'T WANT TO STRATEGIZE AND THEY DON'T USE UP THEIR BULLPELL FOR AN EXTRA RUNNING GAME.

>> Ted: AND THE PLAYERS FEEL?

>> THEY GET TO GO HOME EARLY.

THEY GET PAID THE SAME.

>> Ted: IN SPRING TRAINING, WE'LL SEE THIS.

>> YES.

>> TED ARE WE'LL SEE MORE DOUBLES, TRIPLES AND MORE GUYS TRYING TO SCORE FROM SECOND OR FIRST BECAUSE THE BALL WILL BE PUT IN PLAY MORE.

DOESN'T THAT EXCITE YOU?

>> Ted: IT DOES TO ME.

>> YOU LIKE THE SHIFT?

>> Ted: I DON'T LIKE THE SHIFT AND I DON'T WANT TO BE OUTLAWED AND I THINK IT WAS DUMB AND ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS BUNT THE BASE.

DOES IT CHANGE THE NATURE OF THE GAME?

ALL THESE RULES?

>> I THINK IT BRINGS IT BACK CLOSER TO WRIT WHERE IT USED TO BE.

THERE HASN'T BEEN ENOUGH ACTION.

IT WAS A HOME RUN, STRIKE AND THE THING IS FEWER BALLS IN PLACE AND A GUY LIKE THE THIRDER GREAT BASEN IN THE LIFETIME, 30 LESS PLAYS A YEAR.

>> Ted: SPEED BECOMES A LESS FACTOR.

>> THERE'S A CHANCE THAT SOME TEAMS, 13 HIT IRSTERS AND THE LAST GUY MIGHT BE THE FASTEST GUY AND THAT LIGHT GAME SITUATION AND NOW HE'S RUNNING.

>> Ted: REMINDS ME OF THE ODD DAYS, KANSAS ROYALS AND CARDINALS.

BILL HILL, KEEPING US UP TO DATE ON THE RULE CHANGES AS WE HEAD TO SPRING TRAINING.

>> ENJOY THE GAME!

♪♪ >> AS PART OF "HEALTH TOMORROW" SEGMENT, RESEARCH AROUND THE VALLEY AND WE LOOK AT CALVIRI INCORPORATED AND THE BIO DESIGN INSTATEINSTITUTE.

WHAT IS CALVIRI, SPUN OUT OF ASU AND HOW DOES THIS WORK?

>> I WAS A PROFESSOR THERE AND I CAME UP WITH INVENTIONS AND I THOUGHT WE SHOULD GET OUT INTO A COMPANY AND SPUN IT OUT.

>> Ted: THIS IDEA OF A VACCINE AGAIN CANCER AND THIS IS RNA, D.N.A.?

>> RNA, ACTUALLY AND TO MAKE A VACCINE AGAINST CANCER, YOU HAVE TO HAVE SOMETHING THAT MAKES IT LOOK FOREIGN AND PEOPLE WERE LOOKING AT D.N.A.

FOR MANY, MANY YEARS AND THE PROBLEM WAS THAT EVERYONE THAT WAS FOREIGN WAS PERSONAL.

IT ONLY OCCURRED IN ONE INDIVIDUAL AT TIME.

SO WE DECIDED TO LOOK AT THE RNA LEVEL WITH A LOT OF SHARED FOREIGNNESS BETWEEN DIFFERENT TUMORS AND WE FOCUS ON THE OTHER HAND.

>> Reporter: FOCUSED ON RNA.

>> Ted: FORM SHIFTED ANTIGENS AND WHAT IS THIS?

>> TUMORS HAD TO LIVE AND RELAX ALL OF THEIR QUALITY-CONTROL SYSTEMS AND THEY START MAKING NEOANTIGENS AND FOREIGN PIECES OF ANTIGEN THEY WOULDN'T MAKE AND THE IMMUNE SYSTEM CAN SEE THIS AS AN INFECTION AND THAT'S THE SOURCE OF THE VACCINES.

>> Ted: SO IT'S LIKE A NEW WAY TO TAKE WHAT THE TUMOR IS GIVING YOU, CORRECT?

>> YES.

YOU'RE TAKING ADVANTAGE OF AN ANKIELACHILLES HEEL.

VACCINES LOOK SAFE AND LONG HISTORY OF USE.

WE'VE HAD 400 DOGS GET THIS VACCINE AND NO SAFETY ISSUES.

>> Ted: TALK ABOUT THAT DOG TRIAL AND PEOPLE BRINGING IN PETS THAT ARE SICK, HUH?

A PREVENTATIVE VACCINE.

800 PEOPLE BROUGHT IN THEIR DOGS AND SCREENED THEM TO MAKE SURE THEY DIDN'T HAVE A TUMOR AND ENROLLED THEM AND SPLIT THEM IN A CONTROLLED ARM OR VACCINE ARM AND NOW WE'RE MONITORING TO SEE IF THEY GET A TUMORRER TUMOR OR NOT.

>> IT'S THE TRIAL STILL GOING ON AND THE EARLY INFORMATIONS ARE THAT IT LOOKS LIKE THIS IS FEASIBLE TO MAKE A CANCER VACCINE.

>> Ted: SO THE DOG TESTS GO REALLY WELL IF FIDO HAS NO PROBLEM AND WHERE DO YOU GO NEXT?

>> WE GET A LICENSE AND COMMERCIALIZE THE VACCINE FOR CHICAGOSDOGS AND INITIATE TRIALS FOR PEOPLE.

>> Ted: IT WOULD START WITH DOGS.

>> YEAH.

>> Ted: ANYTHING IN THIS STUDY SURPRISE YOU?

>> YES.

NO ONE HAS RUN A TRIAL THIS BIG BEFORE.

THE LARGEST TRIAL FOR DOGS AND WITH HAD A LOT OF SURPRISES A LOT OF MISTAKES AND RECENTLY, SOMETHING HAPPENED THAT TOTALLY BLEW US AWAY AND WE'RE MONITORING NON-TUMOR DEATHS, LIKE DEMENTIA, HEART DISEASE, ARTHRITIS AND THERE'S A DRAMATIC INCREASE THE VACCINATED DOG, IN THE NUMBER OF CHRONIC DISEASES AND INCREASE IN THE LON LONGEVITY.

>> Ted: WHERE IS THAT HAPPENING?

>> IT TOOK US BY SURPRISE.

THEY THINK THE HEART OF A LOT OF CHRONIC DISEASES IS CELLS, OLD CELLS THAT TURN BAD AND INFLAME AND THAT'S ACTUALLY THOUGHT TO BE A MAJOR CAUSE OF OLD AGE, AGING.

AND SO, IT LOOKS LIKE OUR VACCINE MAY HAVE ACCIDENTALLY JENNIFEROVERLAPPED.

>> Ted: THE CANCER, ARE THERE CERTAIN TYPES OF CANCER THAT WORKS BETTER FOR OR MIGHT NOT WORK OUT OF?

>> WE TRY TO DESIGN THE VACCINE TO COVER BROADLY AND AT LEAST THE EIGHT MAJOR CANCERS OF DOGS AND WE SEE WHAT'S TURNING UP THAT WE MISS SOME AND DID WELL ON OTHERS AND SO WE STARTED VERSION TWO THAT SHOULD FILL GAPS, WE THINK.

>> Ted: A HEAD START?

>> YEAH.

>> Ted: EVERYTHING WORKS WELL AND HOW LONG BEFORE SOMETHING LIKE THIS IS FEASIBLY AVAILABLE?

>> IT WOULD DEPEND ON THE REGULATORY ISSUES.

>> Ted: WHICH WOULD BE WHAT?

>> NO ONE HAS RUN A TRIAL LIKE THIS BEFORE AND THIS IS ONE OF THE THINGS PEOPLE SAY WHY YOU CAN'T GET A PREVENTATIVE VACCINE AND TAKE TOO MUCH MONEY AND THINK THERE'S CREATIVE WAYS OF DOING THIS THAT YOU CAN ENROLL A MILLION PEOPLE AND GET THE RESULTS QUICKLY.

>> Ted: INTERESTING.

SO YOU'RE OPTIMISTIC?

>> OTHERWISE I WOULDN'T BE DOING IT.

>> Ted: AND CONTINUED BE DOING IT, AS WELL.

WELL, CONTINUED SUCCESS.

DR. STEPHEN JOHNSON, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

THANK YOU SO MUCH AND YOU HAVE A GREAT EVENING!