>> COMING UP NEXT ON ARIZONA HORIZON: PEACE TALKS ON ENDING THE WAR IN UKRAINE TOOK PLACE YESTERDAY WITH THE UNITED STATES AND RUSSIA, WE'LL HAVE MORE ON WHAT THEY DISCUSSED.

ALSO TONIGHT, PROSECUTION HAS BEGUN FOR SOME ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS AND, WE'LL TALK WITH A FILMMAKER ABOUT HER DOCUMENTARY OF ARIZONA'S CASTLE HOT SPRINGS.

THOSE STORIES AND MORE, NEXT, ON ARIZONA HORIZON.

>> ARIZONA HORIZON MADE TO YOU BY CONTRIBUTIONS OF THE COMMUNITY.

>>> GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO ARIZONA HORIZON.

I'M TED SIMONS.

QUICK CHECK OF HEADLINES: THERE WAS A FATAL MID-AIR COLLISION INVOLVING 2-SMALL PLANES NEAR THE MARANA REGIONAL AIRPORT TODAY.

2-PEOPLE WERE KILLED, 2-OTHERS INJURED.

ONE OF THE PLANES MANAGED TO LAND SAFELY, BUT THE OTHER HIT THE GROUND NEAR THE RUNWAY AND CAUGHT FIRE.

MARANOA AIRPORT DOESN'T HAVE AN AIR-TRAFFIC CONTROL TOWER BUT RELIES INSTEAD ON PILOTS COMMUNICATING THEIR POSITIONS WITH EACH OTHER.

THE COLLISION FOLLOWS A SMALL PLANE CRASH THAT KILLED THE PILOT AT SCOTTSDALE'S AIRPORT LAST WEEK.

AND IT FOLLOWS 4-MAJOR AVIATION DISASTERS IN NORTH AMERICA IN THE PAST MONTH.

OTHER HEADLINES: INCREASING TENSION BETWEEN THE U.S. AND UKRAINE AS PRESIDENT TRUMP TODAY LABELED UKRANIAN PRESIDENT ZELENSKY A, QUOTE, "DICTATOR WITHOUT ELECTIONS.

"THIS AFTER ZELENSKY SAID THAT TRUMP WAS IN A, QUOTE, "WEB OF DISINFORMATION. "

THIS ALL STEMS FROM PRESIDENT TRUMP YESTERDAY FALSELY ACCUSING UKRAINE OF STARTING THE WAR AGAINST RUSSIA.

IT WAS ALL A BIT MUCH FOR SOME "REPUBLICANS" ON CAPITOL HILL.

>> I WOULD NEVER REFER TO THE UKRAINIAN PRESIDENT AS A DICTATOR.

>> HE SAID HE WAS A DICTATOR BECAUSE HE DIDN'T HOLD ELECTIONS.

>> I'LL HAVE TO LISTEN BUT I'D NEVER CALL HIM THAT.

>> DO YOU THINK SAYING HE STARTED THE WAR WAS GOING TO FAR?

>> I WOULDN'T SAY THAT HE STARTED THE WAR.

IT'S CLEAR WHO STARTED THE WAR.

IT WAS ABSOLUTELY RUSSIA AT PUTIN'S DIRECTIVE.

THERE SHOULDN'T BE ANY CONFUSION WITH THAT.

>> CLEARLY PUTIN IS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE WAR.

HE LIED ABOUT SPECIAL EXERCISES IN OCTOBER BEFORE HE INVADED THREE YEARS AGO.

HE LIED ABOUT A SPECIAL MILITARY OPERATION.

HE HAD EVERY INTENT TO OCCUPY UKRAINE.

THIS DECISION RESULTED IN THE MURDER, RAPE, TORTURE, AND KIDNAPPING OF UNTOLD NUMBERS OF UKRAINIANS.

ONE MORE HEADLINE: ARIZONA-BASED TRUCK-MAKER NIKOLA HAS FILED FOR BANKRUPTCY.NIKOLA MANUFACTURES ZERO- EMISSION TRUCKS AND WAS ONCE CONSIDERED AN UP-AND-COMER IN THE WORLD OF GREEN TECHNOLOGY TRANSPORTATION.

BUT THE ELECTRIC TRUCK-MAKER CITED MACRO- ECONOMIC HEADWINDS FOR ITS FINANCIAL PROBLEMS.

NIKOLA SAYS IT WILL CONTINUE WITH LIMITED OPERATIONS THROUGH MARCH AS IT SELLS OFF ITS ASSETS.THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION'S INCREASING APPARENT WILLINGNESS TO ABANDON UKRAINE IN ORDER TO STOP RUSSIA'S "WAR" AGAINST UKRAINE, IS RAISING QUESTIONS AS TO AMERICA'S TRADITIONAL ALLIANCES AND WHY THE U.S. IS TREATING SOME OF ITS ALLIES AS ADVERSARIES.

JOINING US NOW IS DANIEL ROTHENBERG, HE IS THE CO-DIRECTOR OF ASU'S CENTER ON THE FUTURE OF WAR.

>> GOOD TO HAVE YOU HERE.

THE U.S.

WORKING WITH RUSSIA TO END THE WAR AGAINST UKRAINE.

JUST SAYING IT, WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS?

>> WELL, ON THE POSITIVE SIDE, IT WOULD BE GOOD TO SEE THIS DEVASTATING CONFLICT COME TO AN END.

I THINK PRESIDENT TRUMP'S REFERENCE TO THE TERRIBLE CASUALTIES SUFFERED ON BOTH SIDES IS SOMETHING POSITIVE FOR THE WORLD.

ALSO THE MOVE TO SOME SORT OF NEGOTIATING CONCLUSION.

MOST WARS END WITH NEGOTIATED SETTLEMENTS, THAT'S A POSITIVE SIGN.

>> UKRAINE IS NOT TAKING PART AND EUROPE IS NOT TAKING PART AND GIVING LAND TO RUSSIA THAT THEY DIDN'T HAVE BEFORE THE INVASION IS THAT A POSITIVE SIGN?

>> NO.

IT WILL TAKE STEPS TO THINK OF THE PROCESSES WITH STAGES IT'S GOING TO REQUIRE A CEASEFIRE TO START AND SOME SORT OF PEACEKEEPING PROCESS.

YOUR POINT ABOUT KEEPING UKRAINE OUT OF IT AND NOW HAVING EUROPEAN ALLEYS INVOLVED IS A CLEAR CRITICISM AND WON'T WORK IF THAT'S THE PLAN.

IT WON'T TAKE PLACE.

>> WHY IS THAT THE PLAN.

WHAT IS THE THINKING BEHIND THIS.

I'M NOT ASKING YOU TO SPEAK WITH THE ADMINISTRATION.

UKRAINE WAS INVADED BUT THEY DON'T WANT UKRAINE AS PART OF THE TALKS.

IS THIS THE STRONG MAN THING.

I'M THE LEADER, PUTIN, YOU ARE THE LEADER.

LET'S MAKE A DEAL.

>> WE DON'T KNOW WHERE THIS IS GOING.

IT'S UNCERTAIN THERE WASN'T BE A PIECE WITHOUT UKRAINE ONBOARD.

LOOK AT THE CONFLICT.

UKRAINE IS THE VICTIM OF THE WAR ON AGGRESSION.

IF WE WERE TO ALLOW STATES TO AGGRESSIVELY TAKE OVERLAND, WHAT WOULD THAT PRODUCE FOR THE WORLD ORDER.

WE HAVE SEEN A SUBSTANTIAL AND IMPRESSIVE UNIFICATION OF EUROPEAN AN U.S. EFFORTS TO ISOLATE EFFORTS.

THEY WILL PROVIDE UKRAINE WITH ALL SORTS OF ASSISTANCE.

THAT'S WITH THE IMBALANCE LANCE OF POWER.

>> IT'S INTERESTING, SOME REPORTS HAVE BEEN THAT RUSSIA WOULD LIKE TO HAVE UKRAINE RULED OUT FOR NATO MEMBERSHIP AND I THINK COMING FROM THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION, IT'S UNREALISTIC FOR UKRAINE TO RE-CLAIM TERRITORY THAT RUSSIA HAS TAKEN.

THAT'S A SOBERING THING THERE.

>> TRUE MANY OF THE STATEMENTS ARE HARD TO WADE THROUGH.

THE REAL HISTORY IS IN 2014 WHEN RUSSIA TOOK OVER EASTERN UKRAINE.

ALMOST THREE YEARS AGO THIS MASSIVE LAND INVASION WITH THE GOAL TO PUSH OUT THE DEMOCRATICALLY ELECTED GOVERNMENT.

TAKE POWER AND INSTALL RUSSIAN GOVERNMENT AND EXERCISE CONTROL OVER UKRAINE.

IT'S AN EXTRAORDINARY STORY HOW RUSSIA HAS NOT SUCCEEDED.

>> NOT SUCCEEDED UNTIL NOW IF THE WAR AIMS ARE TO GET SOME LAND.

IF THEY WANTED ALL OF UKRAINE, I DON'T THINK THAT WILL HAPPEN.

THERE WAS LAND CLAIMED BY RUSSIA, HOW DIFFICULT, THEY WILL GO AHEAD AND SAY, ALL RIGHT, WE'LL GIVE THIS UP.

THAT DOESN'T SOUND LIKE PUTIN TO ME.

>> 20% IS IN THEIR HANDS.

WITHIN THE LAST YEAR IT'S 1500 SQUARE MILES TAKEN.

THE WAR IS AT A STANDSTILL MILITARILY.

THE UKRAINIAN PEOPLE HAVE SHOWN COURAGE AND RESILIENCE.

THERE IS LITTLE CHANCE UKRAINIANS WILL ACCEPT A DEAL THAT DOESN'T INVOLVE RESPECT FOR THEIR SOVEREIGNTY.

>> THE IDEA OF EUROPE AN NATO WONDERING WHERE THEY STAND IN RELATIONSHIP TO THE UNITED STATES.

WHO DO YOU MAKE OF THIS, AGAIN, THE IDEA ALLIES ARE TREATED AS ADVERSARIRIES.

>> WE DON'T KNOW HOW MUCH IS TALK OR POSTURING.

THE RUSSIAN EYE TAKE.

YOU LAND INVASION IN UKRAINE IN FEBRUARY OF 22 AND IT'S UNIFIED EUROPE.

BROUGHT IN TWO NEW COUNTRIES TO NATO.

IT'S BOLSTERED MILITARY EXPENDITURES ON THE PART OF EUROPE ALLIES AND THEIR OWN NEED TO COVER THEIR DEFENSE.

>> THEY SPEND MORE ON DEFENSE WHEN IT'S LIKELY THEY WILL FACE TARIFFS.

IT WON'T HELP THE ECONOMY.

IT'S A SPINNING WHEEL GOING IN THE WRONG DIRECTION.

>> YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT.

ALL OF THE PRESSURES ARE PUT-ON EUROPE AND STRESS THE LONG-STANDING U.S. EUROPEAN ALLIANCE.

THIS COULD PRODUCE ALL KINDS OF CHANGES.

ONE OF THE MOST EXTRAORDINARY THINGS IS THE SETTLEMENT AFTER THE SECOND WORLD WAR.

ALLOW COUNTRIES THAT HAD BEEN AT WAR FOR HUNDREDS OF YEARS DEPENDING ON HOW YOU LOOK AT IT.

LIKE FRANCE AND GERMANY.

THAT'S UNIMAGINABLE NOW THEY COULD BE AT WAR WITH EACH OTHER AND IT'S VIRTUALLY EFFORTLESS TO PASS BORDERS AND WORK ACROSS THE BORDERS.

THESE ARE TRUE HUMAN ACCOMPLISHMENTS AND INCREDIBLE VITALITY.

RECOGNIZING THAT, IT'S REALLY THE RIGHT WAY TO FRAME WHAT NEEDS TO HAPPEN.

>> REALLY QUICKLY, BEFORE YOU GO, WHAT IS THE MESSAGE CHINA IS GETTING OUT OF THIS?

>> THAT'S A GOOD QUESTION.

THE KEY MESSAGE FOR THE COORDINATED GLOBAL RESPONSE TO RUSSIA'S WAR OF AGGRESSION WAS TO SAY, WAR OF A DEPRESSION, EVEN AGAINST A POWER THAT'S NOT AS WELL ARMED MAY NOT SUCCEED.

MIGHT NOT SUCCEED AT THE MOST BASIC LEVELS.

WE DON'T KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN.

WAVING THINGS OUT THAT ALLOWS FOR A VICTORY OVER A CERTAIN PERIOD OF TIME MIGHT SEND A MESSAGE THAT SAYS CHINESE AGGRESSION FROM TAIWAN.

>> THE MESSAGE FROM THE UNITED STATES IS YOU CAN'T TRUST US NECESSARILY.

>> LET'S NOT SAY THAT.

THERE IS A LOT OF TALK AND FRIGHTENING FOR THE ALLIANCE.

IT'S EARLY IN THE GAME.

WE DON'T KNOW WHERE IT'S GOING.

WE HOPE THAT WE ARE SEEING A PROGRESSION TOWARDS IRRATIONAL PIECE.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>>> THE FIRST IMMIGRATION-RELATED CASES SINCE THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION'S DEPORTATION CRACK-DOWN ARE UNDERWAY HERE IN ARIZONA.

THE ADMINISTRATION HAS SAID THAT ONLY THOSE WHO POSE A PUBLIC SAFETY THREAT WILL BE TARGETED, BUT THAT'S NOT THE CASE ACCORDING TO REPORTS BY THE ARIZONA REPUBLIC.

THOSE REPORTS FILED BY THE REPUBLIC'S RICHARD RUELAS, WHO JOINS US NOW.

>> GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN.

>> GOOD TO SEE YOU.

>> THE CLAIM WAS THE WORST OF THE WORST.

GOING AFTER THEM FIRST.

YOU SAYING THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN.

>> WE DIDN'T KNOW IF IT WOULD BE VERY PUBLIC.

IT ENDED UP BEING, LOOKS LIKE INDIVIDUAL STOCKS, HOMES, AND STREETS.

WE LOOK AT THE INITIAL APPEARANCE DOCKET.

WE LOOK AT THOSE CASES COMING THROUGH.

>> I WAS GOING TO ASK, WHAT SET YOU OFF ON THIS, WHAT GOT THIS STARTED?

>> WE DIDN'T SEE THE MASS DEPORTATION -- WE DIDN'T SEE THE MASS RAIDS.

FIGURING, IF THERE IS THE WORST OF THE WORST BEING ARRESTED, THEY MUST GO TO CRIMINAL COURT TO SEE WHO COMES IN.

>> PEOPLE COMING IN AREN'T ALWAYS THE WORST OF THE WORST OR YOU WOULDN'T THINK?

>> WELL, SO FAR, FROM THE DAYS WE SAW, IT SEEMED LIKE THE BIGGEST FELONY THEY WERE -- FOR THE MIGRANT GROUP THE BIGGEST FELONY WAS REENTRY OF A DEPORTED ALIEN.

IF YOU GET DEPORTED AND REENTER THAT'S A FELONY.

>> YOU HAD SOMEONE PICKED UP DUE TO OLD TIPS.

THESE WERE OLD CASES.

>> ONE GUY TRIED TO BUY A GUN.

PROBABLY NOT THE BEST IDEA.

HE TRIED TO BUY A GUN AND TIPPED OFF FEDERAL AUTHORITIES.

THEY DIDN'T ACT UNTIL THE NEW TRUMP ADMINISTRATION.

THERE WAS A NEW PHASE-IN THE ARRESTING DOCUMENTS, SOME OF THE CHARGING DOCUMENTS A NONBIOMETRIC REFERRAL.

>> WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?

>> DEFENSE ATTORNEYS THAT HAVE BEEN PROWLING THE COURTHOUSES FOR YEARS DIDN'T KNOW WHAT IT MEANT.

ONE PANTOMIMED WITH A PHONE TO HIS EAR.

THESE ARE TIPS.

PEOPLE CALL IN THE TIP LINE AND ICE ACT ON IT.

ICE WON'T TELL US WHAT THE NEW TECHNIQUE IS.

THE DEFENSE ATTORNEY SAID IT'S SOMEONE CALLING THE TIP LINE AND SAYING I BELIEVE THE PERSON IS HERE ILLEGALLY.

>> IS IT MOSTLY ICE?

BORDER PATROL?

WHO IS MAKING ARRESTS.

>> HOMELAND SECURITY, HHS, BORDER PATROL, AND ICE.

>> THEY ARE STILL PEOPLE PULLING PEOPLE OUT OF TRUNKS AND CASES THAT CAME TOGETHER IN JANUARY AND THEY TRY TO INVESTIGATE HUMAN TRAFFICKING.

THAT'S STILL HAPPENING BUT CAUGHT UP IN THERE PEOPLE BEING BROUGHT IN BECAUSE THEY ARE FOUND IN THE COUNTRY AFTER A DEPORTATION.

>> SURVEILLANCE USED QUITE OFTEN.

>> AT LEAST IN 15 CASES THERE WAS MENTION IN THE CHARGING DOCUMENTS OF SURVEILLANCE AND TRAFFIC STOP, MEANING, WE KNOW WHERE THE PERSON GENERALLY IS AND WE KNOW, TO GET THEM IN OUR CUSTODY, SAFELY, THIS IS JUST ICE PRACTICE FROM WHAT I UNDERSTAND TO TALKING TO DANNY GONZALEZ.

YOU FOLLOW SOMEONE AND FIND A SAFE SPOT TO DO IT.

THAT'S A LOT OF WORK.

>> ILLEGAL ENTRY, I BELIEVE IS A MISDEMEANOR.

>> IT'S THE REENTRY THAT BECOMES A FELONY.

IF YOU SAY SOMEONE IS HERE ILLEGALLY AND IN CRIMINAL COURT, ONCE DEPORTED AND BACK IN THE COUNTRY, THAT'S A FELONY.

>> THE CASES YOU SAW AND SAT THEIR AND WATCHED, WAS IT MOSTLY REENTRY.

>> IT WAS MOSTLY REENTRY CHARGED AS FELONIES.

A FEW PEOPLE PICKED UP IN THE DESERT AND CHARGED WITH ILLEGAL ENTRY.

IT WAS BASED ON THEIR OWN WORD.

THEY TOLD THE AGENT, POST MIRANDA, I WALKED ACROSS THE DESERT.

>> WHAT HAPPENS TO THEM.

>> IT'S CALLED A FAST TRACK.

IF THEY WENT TO TRIAL WITH DEFENSE ATTORNEYS AND HEARINGS THEY WOULD COME UP THE WORKS.

>> GIVE THEM A GOOD DEAL AND THEY WILL LIKELY BE BACK DEPORTED WITHIN WEEKS, MONTHS.

>> THIS IS BOTH MISDEMEANOR AND FELONY.

>> YEAH, THE FELONY TOO.

YOU ARE GIVEN A FAST TRACK.

IT INDUCES YOU TO TAKE A PLEA AND WE WE COME FREE.

>> DID YOU TALK TO FAMILIES OF THOSE PEOPLE THAT WERE PICKED UP AND ARRESTED?

>> VERY FEW.

TO GET INTO COURT, YOU NEED TO SHOW A STATE ID.

IF YOU HAVE A FAMILY WITHOUT DOCUMENTS THEY CAN'T GO IN TO SEE YOU.

ONE MAN HAD TWO ROWS OF FAMILY IN FOR THIS TEN MINUTE HEARING.

I'D HOPE THAT WOULD HAPPEN TO ME IF I HAVE AN INITIAL APPEARANCE.

THEY DIDN'T WANT TO GIVE ME THEIR NAME BUT THEY WERE IN SUPPORT OF HIM.

I CAN'T HELP BUT TO THINK ONCE THAT PERSON IS DEPORTED THERE WAS A GRAVITATIONAL PULL TO ENJOY HIM IN MEXICO OR HIM TO COME BACK.

>> ARE THE ARRESTS INCREASING, DO YOU KNOW, IT'S HARD TO TELL THE PACE FROM WHAT WE CAN TELL, YEAH, I'M STILL GOING TO COURT.

THE DAY AFTER THE HOLIDAY THERE WERE 15 CASES ON THE DOCKET.

THE PACE IS WAXING AND WANING AS THE WEEKS GO ON.

WE WONDER IF THERE WILL BE MORE TIPS OR OLD INVESTIGATIONS THEY DIDN'T BUTTON UP AND WHETHER THEY WILL CONTINUE.

>> WHETHER IT FOLKS PEOPLE WANT TO SEE THE WORST OF THE WORST.

>> THEY COULD BE I THINK THE THEORY BEFORE WAS LETTING CRIMINALS WALK AROUND ON THE STREET.

IT'S A MATTER OF FINDING THEM.

IF THE THEORY STILL HOLDS.

THERE IS A CHANCE, THE TRUE PUBLIC SAFETY THREATS ARE THERE.

>> THEY WILL BE FOUND.

RICHARD REULAS.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

GOOD TO HAVE YOU HERE.

>> THANK YOU.

>>> A NEW DOCUMENTARY TITLED "CASTLE HOT SPRINGS: OASIS OF TIME" SHOWCASES THE ICONIC CASTLE HOT SPRINGS RESORT AND IT'S IMPACT ON ARIZONA HISTORY.

HERE NOW WITH MORE ON DOCUMENTARY IS FILMMAKER KRISTIN ATWELL.

GOOD TO HAVE YOU BACK ON THE SHOW.

>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

>> THIS IS ANOTHER DOCUMENTARY FROM YOU FOR THOSE NEW AND HAVING BEEN TO CASTLE HOT SPRINGS, TALK ABOUT THE RESORT.

>> IT'S MAGICAL.

IT'S AN OASIS IN THE BRADSHAW MOUNTAINS.

THAT WATER IS NOW USED TO GROW FOOD AND IT HAS SIGNATURE LAWNS AND IT'S JUST A GOOD GARDENING SPOT OUT IN THE DESERT.

>> YOU SAID BRADSHAW LOUNGE, HOW DO YOU GET THERE?

>> YOU TURN OFF LAKE PLEASANT.

I ENJOY DRIVING.

YOU CAN TAKE A HELICOPTER THESE DAYS.

IT USED TO BE WHEN THE RESORT FIRST OPENED IN LATE 1800s.

YOU WOULD GET THERE BY STAGECOACH.

NOW YOU CAN TAKE A HELICOPTER.

>> MY GOODNESS.

SOME OF THE PHOTOS ARE ABSOLUTELY FANTASTIC.

TALK ABOUT THAT.

HOW DO YOU GET THE TEMPERATURE AND HEALING BENEFITS ADVERTISED FOR THIS PLACE.

>> BACK IN THE DAY IT WAS FOUNDED AS A PLACE TO TAKE A REST.

SOAK IN THE HOT MINERAL WATER AND AROUND THE TURN OF THE CENTURY FRANK AND HIS BROTHER WHO WAS THE TERRITORIAL GOVERNOR AT THE TIME SAW THE POTENTIAL TO BRING TOURIST FROM THE EAST COAST AND POINTS YONDER OUT INTO THE ARIZONA FRONTIER.

FRANK MURPHY WAS MOVING MORE OUT OF THE MINE IN BRINGING TOURIST IN ON THE TRAIN.

IT WAS A 25-MILE STAGECOACH OUT TO THE SPRINGS.

IT TURNED INTO A DESTINATION RESORT AROUND 1905.

IT REALLY HAD IT'S FIRST GOLDEN YEARS THERE THE TEENS AND 20s WHEN WAR RERUPTED IN EUROPE.

PEOPLE GO OVER SEAS PUT THEIR CARS ON TRAINS AND CAME WEST.

>> SOME PRETTY HIGH ROLLERS UP THERE.

>> WELL, THE ROCKEFELLERS, THE NELSON A. ROCKEFELLER WAS ON THE DOCKET TO BE THERE IN THE 1970s.

THE FAMILY, THERE ARE SO MANY FAMILIES THAT WOULD COME FOR GENERATION AND SPEND THEIR TIME.

>> IN WORLD WAR II, ONE VERY FAMOUS PERSON.

>> ONE FAMOUS PERSON.

THE RESORT WAS LEAST TO THE ARMY AIR FORCE.

ONE ENTITY BACK THEN.

A YOUNG, I DON'T KNOW HIS RANK, A YOUNG SOLDIER, JOHN F KENNEDY CAME TO RECUPERATE AFTER HIS P.T.

BOAT ACCIDENT.

HE SAVED FOR ABOUT THREE MONTHS.

IT'S PART OF THE LEGENDARY GUEST LEDGER OF CASTLE HOT SPRINGS.

>> AM I WRONG HERE, DO I REMEMBER A FIRE OUT THERE AT ONE POINT.

>> THAT WAS THE END OF THE ORIGINAL ERA.

IN 1976 THERE WAS A PRESEASON FIRE.

IT TOOK OUT THE PALM HOUSE THAT'S THE LARGEST GUEST LODGING ON THE PROPERTY AT THE TIME.

TALLY WAS THE OWNER AND GIFTED THE PROPERTY TO ASU FOUNDATION.

THEY RAN IT FOR SIX YEARS AS A RETREAT CENTER.

IN FACT, THE 1980 GROUND WATER ACT WAS DECIDED IN A SEQUESTERED GROUP OUT AT CASTLE HOT SPRINGS.

>> MAYBE IF WE GET THEM OUT THERE FOR THE 2026.

>> WE NEED TO WORK TOGETHER.

>> YES, WE DO.

>> YOU HAVE PETER COYOTE.

THAT'S A BIG GUEST.

>> I HAVE BEEN FORTUNATE TO WORK WITH PETER ON SEVERAL OF MY FILMS.

HE'S THE VOICE OF THE WEST AND HE'S A DREAM TO WORK WITH.

>> HOW WAS IT FOR YOU TO GET ALL OF THIS STUFF TOGETHER AND COMPILE THIS INFORMATION.

WAS IT DIFFICULT.

DID IT COME OUT OF A CORNER THAT WAS NEVER EXPECTED.

>> IT WAS A DREAM CONTRUE.

MIKE AND CINDY WATTS WHEN THEY BROUGHT THE PROPERTY THEY CARE DEEPLY ABOUT THE PROPERTY IN THE STATE.

SO, WE WENT AROUND AND WE WERE ABLE TO FORGERY RELATIONSHIPS WITH THE MUSEUM IN PRESCOTT.

ARIZONA STATE LIBRARY.

ARIZONA HISTORICAL SOCIETY.

ASU, PEOPLE WERE SENDING US PERSONAL SCRAPBOOKS OF THEIR GRANDPARENTS.

IT'S A LOT OF PEOPLE AND ELEMENTS.

>> CLIPS FROM DEMILLE.

>> HE FILMED A FILM OUT THERE DURING THE DEPRESSION.

>> HOLY SMOKES.

>> ALSO BERRY GOLD WATER?

>> WE HAD FABULOUS FOOTAGE HE SHOT IN THE 50s.

ANOTHER HEYDAY AFTER THE WAR WHEN PEOPLE STARTED TRAVELING IN CARS.

>> WHAT IS THE STATE OF THE RESORT NOW?

>> IF YOU CAN IMAGE, THE MOST AMAZING NATURE EXPERIENCE COUPLED WITH LUXURY BEYOND YOUR WILDEST DREAMS.

THAT'S THE STATE OF THE RESORT.

IT TRULY IS A MIRACLE IT'S OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AFTER BEING DORMIENT FOR ALMOST 50 YEARS.

>> I'M NOT SURE IF I HAVE BEEN UP THERE OR NOT.

MAYBE THAT'S NOT TRUE.

I HEARD THAT SO MANY TIMES.

>> IT TRULY IS AND THE DEVELOPMENT OF THE RESORT MIRRORS THE DEVELOPMENT BRINGING PEOPLE WEST AND HAVING THEM INVESTMENT IN FACT, MCCORMACK WENT TO LOOK AT A PROPERTY IN SCOTTSDALE.

WE HAVE THINGS LIKE MCCORMACK RAILROAD PARK.

>> WE HAVE A NEW FILM COMING UP.

WHERE CAN WE WATCH THAT?

>> AMAZON AND APPLE TV AND YOU CAN SEE IT ON APPLE TV.

>> CONGRATULATIONS.

IT MUST HAVE BEEN FUN.

>> TIME OF MY LIFE.

>> THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

>> THANK YOU, TED.

>> THAT'S ALL FOR NOW.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

HAVE A GREAT