
Community of Randolph Centennial, Medicaid Cuts, Police Pointing Guns at Kids
Season 2025 Episode 61 | 27mVideo has Closed Captions
Randolph, AZ 100th birthday. Affects of Medicaid cuts. Phoenix police pointing guns at kids.
Randolph, Arizona, a community rich in culture and historic significance, is celebrating its 100th birthday this year. Medicaid cuts seem inevitable, and could affect 2.1 Million people in our state. An Arizona Republic analysis of police data found that Phoenix police pointed their guns at people more than 19,500 times between January 2021 and November 2024.
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Community of Randolph Centennial, Medicaid Cuts, Police Pointing Guns at Kids
Season 2025 Episode 61 | 27mVideo has Closed Captions
Randolph, Arizona, a community rich in culture and historic significance, is celebrating its 100th birthday this year. Medicaid cuts seem inevitable, and could affect 2.1 Million people in our state. An Arizona Republic analysis of police data found that Phoenix police pointed their guns at people more than 19,500 times between January 2021 and November 2024.
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Learn Moreabout PBS online sponsorship♪♪ MUSIC PLAYING ♪♪ >> COMING UP NEXT ON "ARIZONA HORIZON", THE IMPACT OF PROPOSED FEDERAL FUND GOES CUTS TO MEDICAID.
ALSO TONIGHT, A NEW INVESTIGATION SHOWS INCREASING INNING DEFENDS OF PHOENIX POLICE OFFICERS POINTING SERVICE WEAPONS AT MINERS.
AND THE OLDEST REMAINING HISTORICALLY BLACK COMMUNITY IN ARIZONA, CELEBRATES ITS 100th BIRTHDAY.
THOSE STORIES AND MORE NEXT ON "ARIZONA HORIZON."
>> "ARIZONA HORIZON" IS MADE POSSIBLE BY CONTRIBUTIONS FROM THE FRIENDS OF ARIZONA PBS.
MEMBERS OF YOUR PUBLIC TELEVISION STATION.
>> GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO "ARIZONA HORIZON."
I AM TED SIMONS.
PIMA COUNTY SUPERVISOR ADELITA GRIJALVA ANNOUNCED SHE'S RUNNING FOR HER LATE FATHER'S CONGRESSIONAL SEAT.
ADELITA GRIJALVA IS THE DAUGHTER OF RAUL GRIVALVA WHO DIED EARLIER THIS MORE.
ADELITA GRIJALVA'S ANNOUNCEMENT WAS NOT A SURPRISE.
IT SET UNDER THE CIRCUMSTANCES A TWO-WAY RACE IN THE HEAVILY-DEMOCRATIC CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT 7 BETWEEN GRIVALVA AND FORMER STATE REPRESENTATIVE AND GABBY GIFFORD'S AIDE DANIELLE HERNANDEZ.
ALEXANDER COLORADO KOLODIN ANNOUNCED HIS CANDACE FOY SECRETARY OF STATE HE'S A MEMBER OF THE HARD RIDE FREEDOM CAUCUS WHICH CLAIMED MASSIVE FADE FROM ARIZONA'S ELECTION PROCESS MOTORCYCLE MOSTBLY RACES THAT DONALD TRUMP AND OTHER REPUBLICANS DIDN'T WIN AS SECRETARY OF STATE HE WOULD BECOME ARIZONA'S CHIEF LEXES OFFICER.
THE OFFICE IS CURRENTLY HELD BY DEMOCRAT ADRIEN FONTES.
WORLD NEWS, IN U.S. TODAY ANNOUNCED AID TO MYANMAR DAYS AFTER A SEVEN-POINT WE HAVE EARTHQUAKE KILLED AT LEAST 1700 PEOPLE AT LAST REPORT.
THAT DEATH TOLL IS EXPECTED TO RISE, RESCUE TEAMS FROM INDIA, MALAYSIA, RUSSIA, TYLAN, AND OTHER COUNTRIES ARE ALREADY ON THE SCENE.
A U.S.
TEAM HAS YET TO APPEAR, BUT THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION TODAY DID ANNOUNCE FINANCIAL ASSISTANCE.
>> THE UNITED STATES WILL PROVIDE UP TO $2 MILLION THROUGH BURMA-BASED HUMANITARIAN ASSISTANCE ORGANIZATIONS TO SUPPORT EARTHQUAKE AFFECTED COMMUNITIES THE UNITED STATES STANDS WITH THE PEOPLE OF BURMA HAS THEY THEY WORK TO RECOVER FROM THE DEVASTATION AND WE OFFER OUR DEEPEST CONDOLENCES FOR THE LOSS OF LIFE IN THIS EXTRAORDINARILY DIFFICULT TIME.
>> OF NOTE, FRIDAY'S EARTHQUAKE OCCURRED THE SAME DAY THAT THOUSANDS OF EMPLOYEES OF U.S.A.I.D WHICH DISTRIBUTION CIVILIAN FOREIGN AID WERE TOILED THEIR JOB WERE BEING CUT.
FRANCE'S FAR RIGHT LEADER MARINE LE PEN TODAY WAS DISQUALIFIED FROM BEING ELECTED AS PRESIDENT OF FRANCE FOR THE NEXT FIVE YEARS, THIS AFTER BEING FOUND GUILTY EMBEZZLE.
PAILLE CRIMINAL COURT IN PARIS SHE'S AN ANTI IMMIGRANT NATIONALIST POLITICS LEAD IN THIS LATEST PRESIDENTIAL POLLS FOR THE NEXT ELECTION IN FRANCE SET 22027.
LE PEN VOWED TO FIGHT THE PAN ON PUBLIC OFFICE.
>> CONGRESSIONAL REPUBLICANS ARE MOVING AHEAD WITH THE BUDGET PACKAGE THAT INCLUDES SIGNIFICANT CUTS TO MEDICAID.
THE GOAL, GUTTING FEDERAL MEDICAID FUNDING AND SHIFTING IT OVER TO COSTS TO STATES.
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN FOR HEALTH CARE IN ARIZONA WE ASKED PRESIDENT AND C OPEN.
OF THE AIR HOSPITAL AND HEALTHCARE ASSOCIATION ANN-MARIE ALAMEDDIN.
GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN, THANKS FOR STKROEUPG US.
>> GOOD TO SEE YOU, CONGRESS HAD HAD MINISTRATION, DEBATING CUTS TO MEDICAID.
YOU ARE SAYING THAT THESE CUTS TO ARIZONA HEALTHCARE I THINK YOUR WORD WAS DEVASTATING.
>> THESE CUTS WOULD ABSOLUTELY BE DEVASTATING.
IF MEDICAID IS REDUCED.
HOUSE IS TRYING TO FIND $880 BILLION TO EXTEND THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION TAX CUTS.
AND THEY ARE LOOKING AT MEDICAID TO DO THAT.
AND THAT WOULD JUST HAVE REALLY SIGNIFICANT CONSEQUENCES FOR THE WHOLE HEALTHCARE DELIVERY SYSTEM IN ARIZONA.
FOR PEOPLE ON MEDICAID, AND THOSE IN THE PRIVATE SECTOR, AS WELL.
>> LET'S DEFINE TERMS QUICKLY FOR THOSE THAT ARE NOT AWARE.
WHAT IS MEDICAID.
>> IT'S CALLED ACCESS IN ARIZONA.
THE ARIZONA HEALTHCARE COST CONTAINMENT SYSTEM.
AND WE HAVE OVER 2 MILLION PEOPLE IN ARIZONA WHO ARE ON ACCESS WHO RECEIVED THEIR COVERAGE THROUGH MEDICAID AND IT'S IMPORTANT TO NOTE FOR THOSE PEOPLE THAT THEY HAVE REGIN SURANCE CARDS, IT MIGHT BE DIFFERENT UNITED OR BLUE CROSS BLUE SHIELD, HEALTH CHOICE, IT LOOKS LIKE PRIVATE INSURANCE, BUT IT'S ACTUALLY THE MEDICAID PROGRAM.
>> INTERESTING.
OKAY.
THERE IS A TRIGGER LAW IN ARIZONA AS WELL, WHEN FEDERAL FUNDING GETS BELOW I BELIEVE 80%.
IS THAT CORRECT?
AND WHAT DOES THAT MEAN?
>> WHAT THAT MEANS IN ARIZONA WHEN WE EXPANDED MEDICAID, WHEN WE WERE RESTORED AND EXPANDED MEDICAID BACK IN 2012.
PART OF THAT INCLUDED PROVIDER ASSESSMENT, HOSSA -- HOSS ASSESSMENT THAT FUNDED OUR STATE MATCH, OUR STATE SHARE.
IF THE FEDERAL MATCH GOES WILL HE BOW 80% THAT PROVIDER ASSESSMENT GOES AWAY.
THERE IS A REAL UNRAVELING.
MEDICAID PROGRAM IF THAT FEDERAL MATCH GOES BELOW 80%.
>> THAT MEANS CUTS.
WHAT KIND OF CUTS SPECIFICS PLEASE.
>> AS WE ARE LOOKING AT MEDICAID ENROLLMENT, YOU KNOW, CURRENTLY THERE IS 2 MILLION PEOPLE ON ACCESS IN ARIZONA, THAT'S ONE IN FOUR ARIZONANS.
IT'S UP TO 750,000 ARIZONANS MIGHT LOSE THEIR HEALTHCARE COVERAGE, WHICH IS SO SIGNIFICANT FOR THOSE 750,000 PATIENTS.
YOU KNOW, ACCESS TO HEALTH INSURANCE IS AN IMPORTANT WAY THAT PEOPLE GET ACCESS TO CARE THAT THEY CAN SEE PRIMARY CARE PROVIDERS AND DO PREVENTIVE SCREENINGS FOR CANCER AND MANAGE THEIR CHRONIC CONDITIONS.
AND THIS WOULD BE TAKEN AWAY, THAT ABILITY TO REALLY MANAGE AND WHAT DO PEOPLE DO WHEN THEY ARE SICK, THEY PUT OFF CARE.
AND THEY GO TO THE EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT WHEN IT IS AN EMERGENCY AND THAT'S JUST NOT THE SETTING THAT'S INTENDED TO CARE FOR PATIENTS WITH CHRONIC CONDITIONS.
>> I REMEMBER BACK IN 2012 WHEN WE TALKED ABOUT THIS.
UNCOMPENSATED CARE WAS A BIG DEAL FOR HOSPITALS.
>> YEAH.
>> AS YOU MENTIONED, GOING TO THE EMERGENCY ROOM, FOR ALL OF THESE THINGS, IS NOT WHAT EMERGENCY ROOMS ARE DESIGNED FOR.
I MEAN, UNCOMPENSATED CARE, WILL THAT BE A BIG ISSUE AGAIN?
>> IT ABSOLUTELY WILL.
I MEAN, WE HAVE -- HISTORY HAS THE POTENTIAL TO REPEAT ITSELF I THINK IF WE DON'T ORGANIZE AND REALLY MAKE OUR VOICES HEARD IN TERMS OF HOW WE FEEL ABOUT HEALTHCARE FOR ALL ARIZONANS.
BUT I THINK THERE IS A REAL -- I THINK A REAL RISK OF US REPEATING WHAT HAPPENED DURING THE GREAT RECESSION.
AND THAT WAS THE STATE FROZEN ROLE.
FOR A CERTAIN POPULATION, IN MEDICAID.
AND WE SAW WHEN THE ENROLLMENT DECREASED, UNCOMPENSATED CARE INCREASED EXPONENTIALLY TO A POINT WHERE HOSPITALS COULDN'T SUSTAIN IT.
THERE IS A LOT OF COST SHIFTING TO THE PRIVATE SECTOR, MEANING HOSPITALS COULDN'T COVER THAT COST OF CARE SO THEY WOULD, YOU KNOW, CAUSE SHIFT TO COMMERCIAL INSURANCE COMPANIES OR LAY OFF EMPLOYEES.
OR REDUCE SERVICE LINES.
ALL OF THAT IS REALLY POSSIBLE AGAIN.
BECAUSE WE KNOW IT'S GOING TO HAPPEN.
PEOPLE STILL NEED CARE.
THEY STILL NEED HEALTHCARE.
ARE REGOING TO PROVIDE IT IN THE PRIMARY CARE SETTING AND REALLY HELP PEOPLE STAY HEALTHY?
OR ARE WE GOING TO REDUCE THAT ACCESS TO AFFORDABLE HEALTH INSURANCE.
AND LEAVE THE EMERGENCY DEPARTMENT AS THE ONLY OPTION.
>> WHAT IS THE IMPACT ON SMALLER HOSPITALS ON RURAL HOSPITALS?
>> YOU KNOW, I THINK ACROSS THE BOARD, THERE WILL BE A DETRIMENTAL IMPACT ACROSS THE SYSTEM.
BUT CERTAINLY FOR SMALLER FACILITY AND MORE RURAL FACILITIES, THE IMPACTS ARE THAT MUCH GREATER.
THEY ARE OPERATING MARGINS ARE MUCH LOWER AND THAN ACTUALLY HAVE A HIGHER PERCENTAGE OF MEDICAID POPULATION IN THEIR COMMUNITIES RURAL ARIZONA HAS A LOT AT RISK.
AS YOU MAY KNOW, WE ALREADY HAVE MATERNAL HEALTH DESERT IN ARIZONA WHERE OB-GYN SERVICES ARE FEW AND FAR BETWEEN IN SOME COMMUNITIES.
AND I THINK THIS COULD EXPONENTIALLY HI INCREASE THE NUMBER OF O BGYN CESC DEZ EFFORTS IN ARIZONA.
WE WANT SAFE, RELIABLE, HIGH QUALITY ACCESS TO CARE.
AND I THINK FUNDAMENTALLY THESE CUTS REALLY JEOPARDIZE THAT SAHANA LOWER REIMBURSE LITTLE AGAIN, I THINK MAYBE YOU REFERRED TO THIS.
LOWER REIMBURSEMENTS FOR HOSPITALS THESE THINGS, CMS PAYMENTS AS WELL.
DELAY IN CMS WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT HERE?
>> CURRENTLY, SO WHAT WE HAVE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IS REDUCTIONS TO ACCESS AND CONGRESS HAS NOT ACTED.
SO WE NEED TO ENGAGE, MAKE OUR VOICES HEARD.
WE DON'T WANT THIS FOR ARIZONA TO PREVENT THAT FROM GOING INTO EFFECT.
BUT IN THE CURRENT STATE TODAY, CMS HAS NOT PAID $1.15 BILLION IN PAYMENTS TO ARIZONA.
THAT REALLY HELPS THE SAFETY NET SYSTEM IN ARIZONA.
WHAT IS SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN BUDGETED BY HOSPITALS AND HOSPITALS ARE IN A REALLY DIFFICULT PLACE RIGHT NOW.
THEY ARE LOOKING AT, YOU KNOWING, ARE THEY ABLE TO MAKE PAYROLL.
DO THEY NEED TO REDUCE SERVICES, DO THEY NEED TO CLOSE OB-GYN SERVICE LINES REALLY HARD DECISION TODAY IN THE CHANGE OF ADMINISTRATION, THERE ISN'T YET A CSM DIRECTOR APPOINTED AND THESE PAYMENTS ARE SCRUTINIZED BY THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION GENERALLY.
>> THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION IN GENERAL SEES MEDICAID AS A HAND OUT.
THEY COMPARE IT TO WELFARE.
RESPOND, PLEASE.
>> MEDICAID IS NOT WELFARE.
IT'S HEALTHCARE.
AND I THINK IT'S REALLY IMPORTANT PART AND FOUNDATIONAL TO ARIZONA'S HEALTHCARE SYSTEM SO THAT THERE IS A SAFETY NET WHEN PEOPLE LOSE THEIR JOB, IF YOU ARE A VULNERABLE PERSON, IF YOU ARE ELDERLY, THAT THERE IS A SAFETY NET THAT YOU CAN HAVE ACCESS TO CARE.
AND I THINK WITH ONE IN FOUR ARIZONANS HAVING ACCESS, THIS IS OUR FAMILY, OUR FRIENDS, OUR NEIGHBORS, AND I THINK JUST SO MUCH IS AT STAKE THAT WE ALL REALLY NEED TO KIND OF GET INTERESTED AND REALLY ACTIVATE.
>> DOES GETTING INTERESTED ALSO MEAN IN SOME WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM REORGANIZING MEDICAID?
DOING THINGS -- I KNOW THERE IS ALSO THE WORK REQUIREMENT THAT ALWAYS SEEMS TO COME IN AND KIND OF COME AND GO.
BUT ARE THESE THINGS THAT NEED TO BE REASSESSED AND RECONSIDERED?
>> YOU KNOW, WE WILL BE -- ARIZONA WILL BE SUBMITTING THE WORK REQUIREMENTS ACTING CESC HAS WORKED ON THAT, THE GOVERNOR HOBBS HOBBS ADMINISTRATION IS SUBMITTING THAT TO CMS.
SOMEBODY THAT IS FREQUENTLY LOOKED AT BUT HAS TO BE NARROWLY TAILORED BECAUSE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT A VULNERABLE POPULATION WHO MIGHT BE DISABLED, CHRONICALLY ILL AND UNABLE TO HOLD A JOB.
AND SO YOU NEED TO MAKE SURE THAT IT'S REALLY FINALLY CRAFTED SO THAT IT ONLY APPLIES TO A CERTAIN SEGMENT OF THE POPULATION.
>> LAST QUESTION HERE.
HAVE YOU SPOKEN TO THE CONGRESSIONAL DELEGATION?
AND IF SO, WHAT HAVE YOU HEARD?
>> WE HAVE SPOKE TO THE CONGRESSIONAL DELEGATION AND ARE ENCOURAGING BEING YOU KNOW, HOSPITALS AND ARIZONANS STATEWIDE TO CHIME IN WITH THEIR CONGRESSIONAL REPRESENTATIVE.
AND I THINK AT THIS POINT IT'S ALONG PARTY LINES.
CERTAINLY OUR DEMOCRATIC SENATORS AND CONGRESSMEN ARE LOOKING TO PROTECT MEDICAID AND I ONE REPUBLICANS, YOU KNOW, WE REALLY WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT WE ARE MAKING THE CASE IN TERMS OF THE IMPACT TO PATIENTS, FIRST AND FOREMOST, THE IMPACT TO THE GENERAL HEALTHCARE ECOSYSTEM.
KIND OF ACROSS THE STATE.
AND THEN THE IMPACT TO THE ECONOMY.
THERE IS A VERY SIGNIFICANT IMPACT OF THE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS LEAVING ARIZONA AND THE ECONOMIC CONSEQUENCES IN HE REMEMBERS OF IT JOB LOSS AND OTHER CASCADING EFFECTS.
SO, YOU KNOW, AS AN ARIZONANS I WANT TO SEE OUR TAXES COME BACK TO THE STATE AND I THINK THIS IS AN IMPORTANT WAY OUR TAX DOLLARS COME BACK IN A SYSTEM THAT WE CAN ALL PARTICIPATE?
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>> THANK FOR HAVING ME.
>> I HAVE BEEN HERE FOR MANY REASONS.
>> THE PEOPLE I AM FORTUNATE TO WORK WITH MANY TAL TENTS INDIVIDUALS.
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I WAS TOWING WORK FOR THE PLACE THAT PRODUCED SESAME STREET.
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>> AND ARIZONA REPUBLICAN ANALYSIS OF POLICE DATA FOUND AN INCREASE IN ENCOUNTERS INVOLVING PHOENIX POLICE OFFICERS POINTING SERVICE WEBS AT MINORS.
THIS AS PHOENIX PD'S USE OF FORCE POLICIES AND ACTIONS WERE PART OF A BROADER U.S. JUSTICE DEPARTMENT INVESTIGATION.
JOINING US IS SAHANA JAYARAMAN.
ARIZONA REPUBLIC'S DATA REPORTER THANKS FOR JOINING US.
THANKS FOR HAVING ME.
>> YOU BET.
LOTS OF BIG WORK ON THIS.
WHAT GOT YOU STARTED ON THIS?
>> THE IDEA FOR THE STORY ACTUALLY PERCOLATED INTO MY BRAIN LIKE A YEAR AND A HALF AGO.
I WAS -- DURING ONE OF MY MOMENTS OF FREE TIME, I WAS JUST TRAILING LOU THE DATA SETS THAT THE CITY OF PHOENIX POSTS ON ITS OPEN DATA PORTAL WHICH ANYONE FROM THE PUBLIC CAN ACCESS AND I WAS LOOKING TO SEE WHETHER ANYTHING IN THERE CAUGHT MY EYE.
AND I NOTICED THE DATA SET THAT PURPORT ODD CAPTURE EVERY TIME PHOENIX POLICE OFFICERS DRAW AND POINT THEIR FIREARMS AT PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY.
I HAD NEVER SEEN A DATA SET LIKE THAT BEFORE.
SO IT PEAKED MY INTEREST.
AND THAT'S WHERE IT STARTED.
>> WHERE IT STARTED.
BUT THE FOCUS HERE IN GREAT PART IS ON MINORS ON CHILDREN.
>> YES.
>> AND THE STORY STARTS WITH POLICE AIMING WEAPONS ON A TWO-YEAR-OLD.
WHAT WAS THAT INCIDENT ALL ABOUT?
>> I SPOKE TO THE FAMILY THAT HAS BEEN THROUGH THAT INCIDENT.
AND I, OF COURSE, HAVE SHARED AS MUCH AS I KNOW WITH THE POLICE ABOUT IT AS WELL.
A FAMILY WAS HAVING A BIRTHDAY PARTY AT AN APARTMENT NEAR SOUTH P MOUNTAIN.
THE DODD FAMILY.
WHEN THE DOWNSTAIRS NEIGHBORS STARTED TO BANG SOMETHING ON THE CEILING OF THEIR APARTMENT.
THE NOISE ROSE UP THROUGH THE UPSTAIRS APARTMENT FLOORS.
SOME OF THE ADULT MEMBERS OF THE DODD HOUSEHOLD WENT DOWN STAIRS TO TALK TO THE NEIGHBORS.
IT DIDN'T GO WELL.
THE DOWNSTAIRS NEIGHBORS CALLED POLICE.
AND THE DODDS SAY WHEN POLICE SHOWED UP THEY POINTED GUNS AT EVERYONE IN THE HOUSEHOLD, INCLUDING ALL OF THE CHILDREN.
THERE WERE SEVEN OF THEM THERE RANGING FROM TWO TO 11 AS THEY CAME DOWN THE STAIRS TO THE PARKING LOT.
>> AND THAT -- THAT INFORMATION IS THAT INCLUDED IN THE DATA THAT YOU WERE LOOKING AT?
>> SO IT ACTUALLY IS NOT.
I CAME ACROSS THE DODD FAMILY THROUGH THEIR LAWYER.
NONE OF THEM SHOW UP IN THE POLICE DATA.
AND THE POLICE REPORT ABOUT THE ENCOUNTER WITH THEM MAKES NO MENTION OF POLICE POINTING GUNS OR WEAPONS.
>> WE SHOULD MENTION IT'S PART OF A LAWSUIT NOW.
>> IT IS, YES.
THE DODD FAMILY IS SUING THE CITY OF PHOENIX AMONG OTHER PARTIES.
NAMING -- SAYING THAT PHOENIX POLICE POINTED GUNS AT EVERYONE IN THE HOUSEHOLD.
>> AND WE SHOULD MENTION PHOENIX PD DENIES, WHAT I THINK YOU WROTE EACH AND EVERY PARAGRAPH OF THIS -- >> THE CITY OF PHOENIX.
>> THE CITY, YES.
>> WHO IS AMONG THE NAMED PARTIES.
>> SO WHAT IS POLICE POLICY WHEN IT INVOLVES -- USE OF FORCE, BUT POINT IS GUNS AT PEOPLE, WHAT IS THAT POLICY?
>> THERE ISN'T ONE.
WHICH WAS PROBABLY ONE OF MY POST SURPRISING FINDS EARLY ON IN THE PROCESS.
AND THE PHOENIX POLICE DEPARTMENT ISN'T THE ONLY DEPARTMENT IN THE STATE THAT DOESN'T HAVE A POLICY, SPECIFICALLY OUTLINING WHEN IT IS OKAY FOR OFFICERS TO POINT THEIR FIREARMS AT PEOPLE.
GLENDALE, I THINK SCOTTSDALE, AND MESA DON'T HAVE SPECIFIC POLICIES EITHER, BUT CHANDLER DOES.
AND TUCSON DOES AS WELL.
YEAH, THERE ISN'T LIKE ONE SPECIFIC POLICY THAT DICTATES WHEN OFFICERS ARE ALLOWED TO DRAW AND POINT THEIR FIREARMS.
>> I THOUGHT I READ IN YOUR STORY THERE IS A NEW ADVISORY THAT STARTED IN APRIL -- I AM SORRY, FEBRUARY.
>> YES, SO IN FEBRUARY, THE PHOENIX POLICE DEPARTMENT USED TO HAVE WHAT THEY CALLED A RESPONSE TO RESISTANCE POLICY.
THAT WAS SUPPLANTED BY A NEW USE OF FORCE POLICY THAT'S BEEN IN THE WORKS FOR MORE THAN A YEAR NOW I THINK.
THAT TOOK EFFECT IN FEBRUARY.
AND THE NEW USE OF FORCE POLICY REQUIRES OFFICERS TO TRACK NOT ONLY WHEN THEY POINT THEIR FIREARMS AT PEOPLE, BUT ALSO WHEN THEY POINT LESS LETHAL WEAPONS AT PEOPLE.
THAT'S YOUR TASERS, 40 MILLIMETERS HE LESS LETHAL LAUNCHERS.
>> INTERESTING.
GETTING THE DATA.
WE TALKED ABOUT THE ORIGINAL INCIDENT THAT YOU WROTE ABOUT THAT STARTED THE STORY THAT WASN'T EVEN INVOLVED IN THE DATA.
JUST GETTING PUBLIC RECORDS, GETTING THIS STUFF OUT.
HOW DIFFICULT -- -- WAS IT A DIFFICULT PROCESS?
>> WAS A VERY DIFFICULT PROCESS.
YES.
I WENT IN PERSON TO FILE PUBLIC RECORDS REQUESTS WITH THE PHOENIX POLICE DEPARTMENT.
HAVING HEARD FROM MY COLLEAGUES THAT YOU RECEIVE REPORTS FASTER IF YOU DO IT THAT WAY, AND YOU GO IN PERSON TO THEIR BUREAU.
TWICE IN PERSON AND ONCE OVER THE PHONE I WAS TURNED AWAY BY FOLKS AT THE PUBLIC RECORDS BUREAU BECAUSE I SAID I WAS A MOBILE OF THE MEDIA AND THEY SAID THAT THEY ONLY DEALT WITH THE GENERAL PUBLIC.
EVEN AFTER A DEPARTMENT REPRESENTATIVE SAID THAT THAT WASN'T TRUE.
>> HOW RECENT WAS THIS?
>> THIS WAS BETWEEN -- IT WAS -- IT RANGED ALL THROUGH LAST YEAR.
I MADE SEVERAL VISITS ALL THROUGH LAST YEAR.
>> I WAS GOING TO SAY, I MEAN, NOT ABOUT PUBLIC RECORDS REQUESTS, BUT AS FAR AS THE POLICE DEPARTMENT, THE CITY IS NOW SAYING THAT THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IS QUOTE, MATERIALLY DIFFERENT NOW.
WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THAT?
>> YOU KNOW, I THINK THAT THE CITY HAS CERTAINLY TAKEN STEPS TO RESPOND TO THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE'S FINDINGS.
WHICH CAME OUT IN A THREE-YEAR INVESTIGATION LAST JUNE.
INCLUDING THE IMPLEMENTATION OF THE NEW USE OF FORCE POLICY.
I THINK THAT I -- IT SORT OF REMAINS TO BE SEEN WHAT ELSE WILL COME FORWARD.
WHAT OTHER IMPROVEMENTS ARE GOING TO COME AFTER THAT INVESTIGATION DROPPED.
SAHANA YEAH.
>> YEAH.
SAHANA WHAT DOCUMENT PEOPLE TO TAKE FROM THE TERRY?
>> WHAT I CAN SAY IS I AM CONUPLY FLABBERGASTED BY THE GRAVE ARE YOU P OF MY SOURCES.
WHO COME FORWARD TO TELL THEIR STORIES SHARE THEM AND TRUST THEM TO ME.
AND THUS TO THE PUBLIC.
I HOPE THEIR STORIES STICK WITH THE FOLKS THAT READ THE PIECE.
AS A PLAY PERSON I FOUND SOME -- I CONTINUE TO BE MIND BLOWN BY THE FACT THAT, YOU KNOW, FROM JANUARY 2021 TO NOVEMBER 3, 2024, PHOENIX OFFICERS ON AVERAGE POINTED GUNS AT PEOPLE 14 TIMES A DAY AT LEAST ONCE AT A MINOR EVERY DAY BETWEEN THOSE TIMES ON AVERAGE.
OF COURSE THERE IS THE CONTEXT OF THE NUMBER OF CONTACTS THAT PHOENIX POLICE OFFICERS HAVE.
>> RIGHT.
>> WITH THE PEOPLE IN THE COMMUNITY MORE THAN 500,000 A YEAR.
IT JUST REMAINS A SURPRISING AT THAT TIME I CAN -- STATISTIC TO ME I HOPE FOLKS WALK AWAY HAVING A BETTER CHANCE IT HAPPENS IN THE COMMUNE.
>> I QUITE THE EFFORT THERE, GOOD WORK, THANKS FOR JOINING US.
>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING ME.
♪♪ MUSIC PLAYING ♪♪ ♪♪ MUSIC PLAYING ♪♪ ♪♪ MUSIC PLAYING ♪♪ ♪♪ MUSIC PLAYING ♪♪ >> TONIGHT ON THE NEWS HOUR HOW CHINA IS HELPING WITH MYANMAR'S EARTHQUAKE RECOVERY AFTER THE U.S.
SLASHED FOREIGN AID.
COMING UP AT 6:00 ON ARIZONA PBS.
>> RANDOLPH IS THE OLDEST REMAINING HISTORICALLY BLACK COMMUNITY IN ARIZONA.
RANDOLPH IS MARKING I WANT A 100th BIRTHDAY THIS YEAR WITH CELEBRATES OF THE COMMUNITY'S CULTURE AND HISTORIC SIGNIFICANCE, ANTHONY MOORE A MEMBER OF THE RANDOLPH UNITED COUNCIL.
GOOD TO HAVE YOU HERE.
>> THANKS FOR HAVING ME.
>> YOU BET YOU.
WHERE IS RANDOLPH?
>> WE ARE RIGHT OFF I-10 BETWEEN PHOENIX AND TUCSON.
>> OKAY.
>> OFF HIGHWAY 87.
>> INTERESTING.
CELEBRATING 100 AREAS, HUH?
>> 100 AREAS, YES, SIR.
>> FOUND ED IN 1920.
HOW DID IT DEVELOP?
WHAT WAS THE -- WHAT'S THE HISTORY OF RANDOLPH?
>> THE HISTORY IS A LOT OF FOLKS THAT COMING FROM TEXAS, ARKANSAS, OKLAHOMA, LOOKING FOR A BETTER WAY OF LIFE.
COMING OUT WEST.
AND THEY SETTLED IN RANDOLPH.
BECAUSE THE STORY THAT I HAVE HEARD WAS THAT BLACK PEOPLE COULD NOT BUY PROPERTY OR HOMES IN COOLIDGE BUT YOU COULD BUY PROPERTY IN RANDOLPH WHICH IS FIVE-MILE SOUTH OF COOLIDGE.
>> FIVE MILES SOUTH.
LOTS OF FARM WORKERS COMING OUT THERE I IMAGINE.
>> LOTS OF FARM HE IS WORKERS, YES.
>> I SOUGHT AT ONE POINT THEY THOUGHT THAT RANDOLPH WOULD -- AND COOLIDGE, WOULD BE, YOU KNOW, THIS EXPLOSION EYE PLACE.
DIDN'T TURN THAT WAY BUT RANDOLPH STUCK OTHER BLACK COMMUNITIES IN AIR DIDN'T, -- WHY DO YOU THINK THAT IS?
>> IT HAS TO DO WITH THE FOLKS, RANDOLPH IS VERY RESILIENT PLACE.
THE FOLKS ARE RESILIENT.
A LOT OF GOOD FOLKS IN RANDOLPH.
A LOT OF VALUES OF HARD WORK.
THAT COME FROM THE PEOPLE FROM RANDOLPH.
>> YEAH.
AND AND IN TERMS OF CELEBRATING CULTURE AND HISTORY, WHAT IS PLANNED?
WHAT YOU GOT GOING ON OUT THERE?
>> JUST CELEBRATED OUR 100th YEAR.
AT THE END OF JANUARY.
WE ARE TRYING TO GET OPEN OUR CULTURAL CENTER.
THE CULTURAL CENTER WILL BE A HUB FOR RANDOLPH.
SO THAT WE CAN CELEBRATE OUR PAST BY SPECIFICKING IT AND ALSO TRYING TO MAKE THINGS BETTER FOR THE FUTURE OF RANDOLPH.
>> INTERESTING.
VERY GOOD.
I KNOW RANDOLPH, THE THING I KNOW ABOUT RANDOLPH MOST IS THAT SRP SITUATION, OPPOSING THE POWER PLANT EXPANSION.
TALK TO US ABOUT THAT.
AND HOW THAT REALLY DID HELP PUT RANDOLPH ON THE MAP.
>> I THINK, THAT SRP SITUATION PUT RANDOLPH ON THE MAP BY MAKING THIS MORE THAN JUST A LOCAL ISSUE.
IT BECAME A STATE.
IT BECAME A NATIONAL ISSUE.
A SMALL TOWN TRYING TO -- I DON'T WANT TO USE THE WORD BULLY.
BUT BEING TAKEN OVER SO TO SPEAK, BY SRP.
BUT THINGS ARE -- THINGS ARE LOOKING UP FOR RANDOLPH.
DUE TO A LOT OF MONEYS THAT ARE BEING PUT INTO THE TOWN BY SRP.
>> I WAS GOING TO SAY THE POWER PLANT EXPANSION WAS WHAT THE OPPOSITION WAS TO.
THERE WAS A COMPROMISE AND THE COMPROMISE DID INVOLVE ADDED ATTENTION AND INVESTMENT IN RANDOLPH, TRUE?
>> RIGHT.
YES.
IF YOU GO TO RANDOLPH TODAY, YOU WILL SEE SIDEWALKS AND STREETS.
THINGS THAT WEREN'T REALLY THERE IN THE BEGINNING.
AN AREA OF THE RANDOLPH UNITED COUNCIL THAT I PRETTY MUCH OVERSEER IS OUR EDUCATION AND SCHOLARSHIP PROGRAM THROUGH SRP.
AND WHICH IS ALLOWING A LOT OF STUDENTS TO VARAN DO FEEL LINEAGE TO GO TO COLLEGE OR OR EXPERIENCE JOB TRAINING AT DIFFERENT SITES OR FACILITIES.
WHAT WHATEVER THEIR INTEREST MAY BE IN.
>> INTERESTING.
THE COMPROMISE DID HELP BOTH SIDES, DIDN'T IT.
>> YES, IT DID.
>> THAT'S GOOD TO SEE.
HOW WOULD YOU DESCRIBE RANDOLPH NOW FROM, I DON'T KNOW, 10, 20, YEARS AGO?
WHATEVER THE CASE MAY BE.
WHEN DID YOU FIRST -- ARE YOU BORN AND RAISED THERE?
>> YES, BORN AND RAISED IN RANDOLPH AND PROBABLY ABOUT THE AGE OF 10 WE MOVED FOR WHAT WE CALLED TOWN, WHICH IS COOLIDGE, FIVE MILES NORTH.
RANDOLPH RANDOLPH'S POPULATION HAS DECREASES OVER THE YEARS BECAUSE DEVELOPMENT.
THERE HAS BEEN NO DON'T.
THERE IS REALLY NO JOBS IN THE AREA.
SO IF YOU ARE FROM A FAMILY AND WANT YOUR FAMILY TO DO BETTER THAN YOU, AS MOST DO, YOU MOVE.
SO YOU MOVE TO PHOENIX, YOU MOVE TO TUCSON, WHEREVER YOU CAN FIND JOBS.
INTERESTING FACT, I DON'T BELIEVE THERE HAS BEEN A NEW STRUCTURE, MEANING EYE HOUSE, IN RANDOLPH SINCE PROBABLY 1978.
>> WOW.
ARE THERE PLANS TO CHANGE THAT?
ARE THERE FEW I EVER PLANS FOR RANDOLPH?
>> IT IS HOPED THAT THAT WILL HAPPEN.
THERE HAS BEEN A LOT OF FOLKS THAT OWN PROPERTY IN RANDOLPH THAT HAVE EXPRESSED INTEREST IN RETURNING TO RANDOLPH.
BUT IT'S SOMETHING THAT HOPEFULLY WILL HAPPEN EVENTUALLY.
>> I SEE THAT RANDOLPH LAST YEAR WAS LISTED ON THE NATIONAL REGISTER OF HISTORIC PLACES AS WELL.
>> YES.
AND THAT IS BECAUSE OF THE PEOPLE FROM RANDOLPH.
LIKE IF YOU TAKE RANDOLPH AS OPPOSED TO A PLACE LIKE JEROME, WHERE THEY STILL HAVE ALL OF THESE HISTORICALLY THINGS THERE.
ALL OF THESE BUILDINGS THAT USED TO BE IN RANDOLPH NO LONGER EXIST.
AS A KID, THERE WAS A GAS STATION.
WE HAD A GENERAL STORE, A POST OFFICE.
THERE WAS A COUPLE OF RESTAURANTS AND BARS BEFORE I WAS BORN.
SO RANDOLPH USED TO BE THRIVING.
BEFORE I WAS BORN.
>> IT SOUNDS LIKE RANDOLPH IS LOOKING TO THAT LIFE AGAIN, ANTHONY MOORE, RANDOLPH CITY COUNCIL.
CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU AND CONGRATULATIONS TO YOU WOULD ALL OF THE PHOBES OF RANDOLPH.
ALL THE FOLKS IN THE BIG CITY OF COOLIDGE AS WELL FOR 100 YEARS OF RANDOLPH.
>> THANK YOU VERY MUCH.
>> THANK YOU FOR SHARING, WE APPRECIATE IT.
>> THANK YOU.
>> AND THAT IS IT FOR NOW.
I AM TED SIMONS.
THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.
YOU HAVE A GREAT EVENING.
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