♪♪ MUSIC PLAYING ♪♪ >> COMING UP NEXT ON ARIZONA HORIZON, WE LOOK AT DEMOCRATS' SPENDING PLANS AS THE NATION APPROACHES THE MIDTERMS.

ALSO TONIGHT, A NEW WAY TO SPEND TIME AT PHOENIX SKY HARBOR AIRPORT AHEAD OF YOUR FLIGHT.

AND, A CHANCE TO SEE ARTIFACTS FROM THE CITY OF POMPEII IN PHOENIX.

THOSE STORIES AND MORE, NEXT, ON ARIZONA HORIZON.

>> "ARIZONA HORIZON" IS MADE POSSIBLE BY CONTRIBUTIONS FROM THE FRIENDS OF ARIZONA PBS.

MEMBERS OF YOUR PUBLIC TELEVISION STATION.

>> GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO "ARIZONA HORIZON."

I'M STEVE GOLDSTEIN FILLING IN FOR TED SIMMONS.

PRESIDENT TRUMP TODAY ANNOUNCED THAT HE IS FIRING DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY SECRETARY KRISTI NOEM AND WANTS TO REPLACE HER WITH SENATOR MARKWAYNE MULLIN.

NOEM HAS BEEN SUBJECT TO CRITICISM OF HER HANDLING OF MASS DEPORTATIONS, EVEN AMONG REPUBLICANS.

>> ADD ALL OF THIS UP AND THE OTHER TURMOIL, AND IT'S BEEN STUCK IN MY CRAW.

AND I AM -- I WANT TO BE A TEAM PLAYER.

AND I WANT TO SECURE THE BORDER.

AND I WANT TO ENFORCE OUR IMMIGRATION LAWS.

BUT I AM TIRED OF TRYING TO EXPLAIN BEHAVIOR THAT IS INEXPLICABLE TO ME.

>> MULLIN WOULD NEED SENATE APPROVAL.

IN THE MEANTIME, NOEM WILL BE REPLACED BY DEPUTY DHS SECRETARY TROY EDGAR, WHO WILL ACT AS INTERIM DIRECTOR.

DEMOCRATS HAVE SAID THEY PLAN TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF PRESIDENT TRUMP'S LOW POLLING AHEAD OF THE MIDTERMS BY INVESTING IN DISTRICTS THAT WERE DEEPLY RED IN 2024.

TWO OF THE TARGETS INCLUDE ARIZONA CONGRESSMEN JUAN CISCOMANI'S DISTRICT AND ELI CRANE'S DISTRICT.

JOINING US NOW IS CHUCK COUGHLIN, PRESIDENT AND CEO OF POLITICAL CONSULTING FIRM, HIGHGROUND, INC.

AND STACY PEARSON, CO-FOUNDER OF LUMEN STRATEGIES.

>> THANK YOU BOTH FOR BEING HERE.

>> PLEASURE.

>> BEFORE WE JUMP INTO THE RAISE SAYS, SIGNIFICANCE OF KRISTI NOEM BEING FIRED.

WOULD THAT BE SOMETHING THE DEMOCRATS WILL TRY TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IN NOVEMBER?

>> ABSOLUTELY.

[ LAUGHTER ] >> THAT HAND-HANDED APPROACH TO IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT IS SOMETHING EVERY DEMOCRAT IS TALKING ABOUT RIGHT NOW.

>> WITHOUT HER THERE.

STILL A TARGET.

STILL ICE, BUT WITHOUT HAVING HER THERE, SHE WAS REALLY THE PIÑATA IN A LOT OF WAYS.

>> SHE VERY MUCH WAS ICE BASHY IN PARTICULAR -- BARBIE WAS NOT A POPULAR CHARACTER FOR THOSE ON THE LEFT.

>> CHUCK, THE SIGNIFICANCE OF THIS?

>> IT'S PART OF WHAT THE DEMOCRATIC STRATEGY IS THIS FALL IS TO USE THOSE TYPES OF THINGS FOR VOTER TURN OUT.

WE SAW THAT IN THE TEXAS PRIMARY LAST WEEK.

WE SAW DEMOCRATIC VOTER TURN OUT SURPASS REPUBLICAN VOTER TURN OUT IN THEIR PRIMARY.

THAT WAS UNUSUAL.

THAT HASN'T HAPPENED IN SOMETIME.

EARLY SIGNS THE DEMOCRATS MAY HAVE SOME WATER BOIL ON THIS STOVE.

>> SOME OF THE RACES THAT WE'LL TALK ABOUT, FOCUSED ON ARIZONA'S CONGRESSIONAL RACES, STACY, HOW MUCH -- LET'S GO ONE -- DISTRICT ONE AND DISTRICT SIX TO START.

HOW BIG OF AN ISSUE GENERALLY IS IMMIGRATION, BORDER SECURITY, ICE, HOW MUCH WILL IT BE EQUAL IN BOTH DISTRICTS OR MORE IN THE SOUTHERN ARIZONA DISTRICT THAN IN THE PHOENIX AREA?

>> I THINK IT'S EQUAL IN BOTH.

CERTAINLY SOUTHERN ARIZONA HAS HAD ITS SHARE OF BORDER ENFORCEMENT ISSUES AND THEY ARE SO CLOSE TO THAT ISSUE YOU ITSELF.

BUT IT'S GOING -- THIS IS A TOP OF MIND ISSUE FOR BOTH DISTRICTS.

>> CHUCK.

>> YEAH.

I MEAN, CD6, THE SOUTHERN ARIZONA DISTRICT IS A -- IT'S 76% OF THE DISTRICTS IN PIMA COUNTY.

SO IT'S NORTHERN PINAL, PIMA COUNT, NOT MAYBE THE HEART OF TUCSON AND A LOT OF PLACES BUT STILL PIMA COUNTY.

AND SO I WOULD TEND TO THINK THAT JUAN HAS DONE WELL IN A COUPLE OF GOOD REPUBLICAN CYCLES THAT HAVE GONE ON DOWN THERE.

HE'S BEEN A STAUNCH SUPPORTER OF, YOU KNOW, COMMON SENSE REPUBLICAN VIRTUES, AS THEY REMAIN.

BUT I THINK HE'S GOING TO BE CHALLENGED IN THIS CYCLE.

>> BUT HE'S TAKEN LOST CRITICISM FOR SAYING THINGS ESPECIALLY RELATED TO MEDICAID THAT HE WOULD PROTECT PEOPLE AND PIMA COUNTY IS AN AREA THAT HAS A LOT OF LOW INCOME FOLKS AND HE DIDN'T ACTUALLY TAKE ACTION.

IS IT FINALLY GOING TO CATCH UP WITH HIM THIS TIME?

HE'S WON A COUPLE OF NARROW RACES.

>> I GOTTA THINK THAT HE, OF EVERYBODY, SCHWEIKERT LEFT HIS SEE.

BUT HE OF EVERYBODY IS IN THE MOST PRECARIOUS POSITION.

>> STAYS.

>> I ABSOLUTELY.

>> JOANNA MENDOZA, DO WE KNOW WHO SHE IS?

>> WE WILL.

WE CERTAINLY WILL.

MONEY IS FLYING OUT OF HELICOPTERS IN SUITCASES AT THIS POINT FROM THE DEMOCRATS TO INVEST IN PICKING UP THAT SEAT.

ALWAYS BEEN COMPETITIVE.

AND IT HAS ON OUT-SIZED MILITARY AND FEDERAL LAW ENFORCEMENT EXISTENCE, POPULATION.

AND THOSE FOLKS ARE GETTING INCREASINGLY FRUSTRATED WITH THE PRESIDENT AND THIS ADMINISTRATION.

>> MARINE, VETERAN, MOM,, YOU KNOW, YOU WOULD THINK THOSE THINGS WOULD FLY IN THE DISTRICT DOWN THERE.

VERY DISTINCTION -- POTENTIALLY DISTINCT MEMBER OF CONGRESS FROM THE LAST CONGRESSWOMAN SELECTED FROM SOUTHERN ARIZONA.

I THINK A DIFFERENT BREED OF CAT.

SO I THINK SHE WILL SUIT THE DISTRICT FAIRLY WELL AND BE A VERY COMPETITIVE RACE.

>> MILITARY MAKES ME WANT TO ASK ABOUT IRAN.

IN A DISTRICT LIKE THAT DOES THE ACTION IN IRAN, ESPECIALLY WHERE AMERICANS HAVE ALREADY BEEN KILLED.

WHAT DO YOU THINK?

>> YEAH.

I THINK WE HAVE TO PLAY THE TAPE HERE IN ABOUT A MONTH.

OR MORE TO SEE WHAT THIS TURNS OUT TO BE.

IT'S A MESS RIGHT NOW.

IT SEEMS LIKE A PROTRACTED CONFLICT, WHICH AMERICAN DOES NOT HAVE THE APPETITE FOR.

AND -- >> EXPENSIVE, PROTRACTED.

>> EXPENSIVE PRO TACTED.

IN BLOOD AND TREASURE.

I THINK WE'LL HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE IF BY SOME MIRACLE OF A CHANCE THEY GET A REGIME CHANGE WITH A POPULAR REGIME THAT'S NOT MASSACRING ITS OWN PEOPLE THAT WOULD BE A BIG THING.

I DON'T KNOW IF THAT WILL HAPPEN.

>> ONE IN THE WITHIN NEVER ONE, SISSETON-WAHPETON OYATE AND CD6 IF THEY HAVE TO DEFEND THE PRESIDENT'S ACTIONS IN A TIME WHEN IT'S NOT GOING WELL IF IT'S PROTRACTED?

>> I WOULD NOT WISH THAT ON MAY WORST ENEMY.

FOR AMERICAN I HOPE WHATEVER IS HAPPENING THERE IS SUCCESSFUL AND QUICKLY.

THINGS WHIM NOT BE EASY AND QUICK AND WITHOUT LOSS OF LIFE.

THAT THINGS GET REALLY REAL WHEN A FLAGS FLIES AT HALF STAFF FOR A 19-YEAR-OLD KILLED IN COMBAT THE.

>> IT'S VERY DIFFICULT.

WE CAN APPLAUD A LOT OF THIS IT'S A DICTATORIAL TERRORIST REGIME SUPPORTING GLOBAL TERRORISM EVERYWHERE BUT IS AMERICA IN A POSITION TO SUSTAIN A PROLONGED CONFLICT WITH A ANCIENT PARISIAN CULTURE NOT SUBJECTED TO WESTERN MORAYS OR VALUES.

>> LAST MINUTE AND A HALF OR SO, STACY.

GOING TO CD1, THAT'S THE TARGET OF DEMOCRATS FOR A LONG TIME.

DAVID SCHWEIKERT EVEN WHEN HOUSE ETHICS VIOLATIONS WON EASILY.

EASILY TWO, THREE-POINTS NOT A HALF A POINT.

BUT THE SEAT IS OPEN NOW.

DO THE DEMOCRATS HAVE AN EXCITING CANDIDATE THAT CAN CLAIM AT THIS TIME IN.

>> CERTAINLY.

>> THE ONE THING CD1 HAS IN ABUNDANCE IS CANDIDATES, PARTICULARLY DEMOCRATIC CANDIDATES.

DOCUMENT A FORMER REPUBLICAN WHO UNDERSTANDS THE DISTRICT REALLY WELL?

DOCUMENT A MAYO DOCTOR, EMERGENCY ROOM DOCTOR.

WE HAVE A GOOD BATTERY OF CANDIDATES.

AND THIS IS A DISTRICT THAT IS VERY HIGHLY EDUCATED, VERY COST SENSITIVE AND SO WHAT IS HAPPENING IN THE ECONOMY, WHAT'S HAPPENING TO THEIR INVESTMENTS AND THE DOW WILL MATTER.

>> CHUCK, ABOUT 30 SECONDS.

IF WE LOOK AT IT THIS WAY, SEEMS LIKE THE TWO REPUBLICANS WE ARE HEARING A LOT ABOUT SEEM MORE MAGA THAN MORE TYPICAL CONSERVATIVE WHICH TENDING TO BE THAT DIFFERENT.

>> THEY GOTTA WIN A REPUBLICAN PRIMARY.

J.P.

LEE I SUSPECT WILL RUN AN AGGRESSIVE CAMPAIGN, HE'LL HAVE THE MONEY TO DO IT.

LEGISLATE TORE FAVORERRED TURNING POINT GUY IS THE ONE AND THEN YOU HAVE THE ONE WHO WON THE LAST DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY.

WE DID A POLL ON HIM ON THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE AND HE HAS A 3-1 LEAD OVER HIS DEMOCRATIC OPINE END I SUSPECT HE WILL BE THE NOMINEE.

>> CHUCK, STACY, THANKS FOR BEING HERE, A LOT MORE TO TALK ABOUT I AM SURELY A BE BACK, THANKS.

>> THANK YOU.

♪♪ MUSIC PLAYING ♪♪ ♪♪ MUSIC PLAYING ♪♪ ♪♪ MUSIC PLAYING ♪♪ ♪♪ MUSIC PLAYING ♪♪ >> HAVE TIME BEFORE YOUR FLIGHT AT PHOENIX SKY HARBOR?

CHECK OUT THE NEW FREE LITTLE LIBRARY LOCATED IN TERMINAL 3 AT THE CULTURE CORNER.

TRAVELERS MAY TAKE A BOOK OR LEAVE ONE FOR OTHER TRAVELERS TO ENJOYS.

HERE WITH US NOW IS JON BRODSKY WITH THE SKY HARBOR AIRPORT.

AND LEE FRANKLIN FROM THE PHOENIX PUBLIC LIBRARY.

GUYS, THANKS FOR BEING HERE.

THIS SEEMS LIKE A NEAT IDEA.

IS THIS SOMETHING THAT WAS YOU MAKE TO PHOENIX AND HOW LONG HAD THE PROCESS BEEN IN EFFECT HEAR THINKING ABOUT IT IN.

>> GREAT TO BE HERE AND GREAT QUESTIONS.

WE HAVE THE CULTURE CORNER AS YOU MENTIONED.

IT'S SOMETHING THAT WE HAVE HAD FOR ABOUT A YEAR IN TERMINAL 3 SKY WHAT ARE BOO THINK PEOPLE GETTING OFF PLANE AND PEOPLE ARE EXCITED ABOUT ONCE A MONTH, WE HAVE A NONPROFIT COME IN AND PEOPLE GET TO CELEBRATE THE CULTURE AND DIVERSITY OF ARIZONA.

WE THOUGHT WHY NOT ADD SOMETHING ACTIVATED ALL THE TIME.

A FREE LITTLE BLY LIBRARY WE SAW OTHER AIRPORTS THAT HAD ONE.

WE THOUGHT WHY NOT PARTNER WITH PHOENIX PUBLIC LIBRARY AND THE FRIENDS OF THE PHOENIX PUBLIC LIBRARY AND I BRING THERE WONDERFUL AMENITY TO PASSENGERS AND PEOPLE ARE REALLY EXCITED TO HAVE IT.

>> THIS HAS TO EXCITE YOU AS A LOVE OF BOOKS, LEE.

WHAT DO YOU THINK MAKE ABOUT THIS PARTNERSHIP?

>> ONE WE WERE TRYING TO GET TO THE AIRPORT FOR YEARS, WE WERE EXCITED -- ANY TIME WE CAN ENCOURAGE PEOPLE TO PICK UP A BOOK, ANY BOOK, ALL READING IS GOOD.

AND CONNECT, CONNECT WITH READING MATERIAL BUT ALSO WITH THEIR FELLOW COMMUNITY MEMBER, THERE IS A COMMUNITY CONNECTION THAT COMES WITH THAT, TOO.

WE ARE ALWAYS EXCITED TO SUPPORT THAT.

SO WE ARE GUNG-HO.

>> NOT SURE WHICH ONE OF YOU TO ASK.

ALL SORTS OF VARIETIES OF BOOKS FOX, ADULTS AND KIDS?

IN FACT, I THINK OF MANY OF NEWS THE OLD DAYS WOULD THINK ABOUT IF WE ARE TROUGH ON THE GROUND A PLANE, LIGHT FIX, MYSTERY, THAT KIND OF THING.

SOMETHING THAT YOU CAN ABSORB IF YOU ARE SITTING WAITING FOR YOUR FLIGHT OR A THREE-HOUR FLIGHT IF YOU ARE ON A PLANE.

WHAT'S THE VARIETY LIKE, JON?

>> THAT'S WHY WE DEPEND ON THE LIBRARY.

THEY CURATED OUR FIRST SELECTION OF BOOKS.

AND IT'S BEEN GOING PRETTY BRISKLY SO FAR, WE WERE GOING TO HAVE DOG TO GO BACK AND GET MORE.

MYSTERIES, GREAT CHILDREN'S BOOKS AND THE CHILDREN'S BOOKS HAVE BEEN HOT ITEMS IN THE FIRST COUPLE OF DAYS.

THOSE ARE THE ONES THAT WE'LL HAVE TO RESTOCK THE SOONEST.

BUT THERE IS A NICE VARIETY THERE.

AND ALSO THE CABINET IS SOMETHING THAT WAS BUILT BY OUR MUSEUM TEAM, IT WAS BUILT FROM SCRATCH BY ONE OF OUR TEAM MEMBERS AND IT ALSO IS JUST A REALLY NICE ENVIRONMENT, NICE PLACE TO GO AND PERUSE.

WONDERFUL BOOKS TO BRING WITH YOU ON YOUR FLIGHT.

>> AND LEE, JON SAID IT'S CURATED BY THE LIBRARY BUT TRAVELERS CAN BRING THEIR OWN BOOKS AND LEAVE THEM AS WELL?

>> YES.

NOW, THE INITIAL STOCK THAT WE LAID OUT ON MONDAY, IS A PARTNERSHIP WITH THE PHOENIX PUBLIC LIBRARY AND THE FRIENDS OF PHOENIX PUBLIC LIBRARY THAT SUPPORTS THE LIBRARY AND I IN ALL OF OUR EFFORTS AND WE HAVE ARRANGEMENTS WITH THEM THAT THEY HELP US WITH THE BOOK DONATIONS THAT PEOPLE WANT TO MAKE TO THE LIBRARY.

WHEN WE NEED TO WEED OUR COLLECTION AS WE CALL IT AND SO THEY FIND SECOND AND THIRD HOMES FOR THOSE BOOKS.

AND THEY ARE A PERSON PARTNERSHIP FOR THIS, THESE BOOKS CONTINUE TO GET IN THE HANDS OF PEOPLE.

SO, YES, WE LOOKED AT GENERAL POPULATION, WE KNEW THE TRAVELERS WOULD BE COME AND GOING, PLUS EMPLOYEES AT THE AIRPORT AND WANTED TO HAVE A GOOD CHILDREN'S SECTION, SOME -- THE PLACEMENTS AND A LOT OF THE PROGRAM STUFF THAT THE CULTURE CORNER DOES, THEY MADE SENSE TO FACTOR THOSE AUDIENCE ELEMENTS INTO IT.

>> JON, WHAT'S THE OFFICIAL POLICY.

IF I THINK A GOING TO HAWAII AND HAVE THIS BOOK I DON'T WANT TO LEAVE IT.

I WANT TO TAKE IT WITH ME.

IS THAT OKAY?

AM I EXPECTED TO BRING IT BACK?

>> NO, YOU CAN TAKE ONE, TWO JUST LIKE THE ONES YOU SEE IN THE COMMUNITY THESE ARE BOOKS THAT YOU CAN TAKE WITH YOU AND YOU CAN LEAVE ONE ON THE WAY BACK IF YOU WANT TO.

>> OKAY.

>> YEAH.

ABSOLUTELY.

AND ALSO, FOR THOSE THAT ARE RESTLESS DENTS OF MARICOPA COUNTY.

TAKE YOUR LIBRARY WITH YOU.

YOU'VE GOT RIGHT THERE SITTING AT THE GATE YOU CAN CONNECT TO OUR WEBSITE, GET YOUR E CARD, TAKE YOUR E-CARD ALLOWS TO YOU TAKE MORE BOOKS WITH YOU.

>> THAT'S RIGHT.

>> THAN WHAT YOU CAN CARRY INTO A CARRY ON BAG.

SO ALL OF IT IS GREAT.

WE ARE SO EXCITED TO GET PEOPLE CONNECTED TO THE LIBRARY.

TO READING, TO THE KINDNESS THAT COMES WITH THINKING ABOUT TAKING A BOOK, LEAVING A BOOK.

TAKE SOME STUFF FROM US, GO ON VACATION, COME BACK, TRAVEL THROUGH, LEAVE SOMETHING.

YEAH, WE ARE HAPPY ABOUT IT.

>> THE COMMUNIQUE CONNECTION, PEOPLE HAVE THE NEIGHBORHOODS MIGHT HAVE THE LITTLE LIBRARY IN YOUR NEIGHBORHOOD.

IT SEEMS LIKE IT'S THE SAME SORT OF THING, A WAY TO BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER.

AS WE HAVE GOTTEN SO MUCH MORE ELECTRONIC AND I AM NOT OPPOSED TO READING A KINDLE BUT I ALSO LOVE HOLDING A BOOK.

>> HOLDING A BOOK.

>> THAT'S A COMMUNITY OR RENTED THING, TOO RIGHT?

>> ALL THE TIME I GET THAT QUESTION, NO, I CAN ASSURE YOU THEY ARE NOT.

MANY OF US AT THE LIBRARY, DO I BOTH I USE E-READERS BUT LOVE THE SAME SENSE ARE YOU OF THE SMELL, THE H*EFT.

, THE FEEL, TURNING THE PAGE, SOMETIMES I AM A ACCOUNT THAT TODAY A CERTAIN COVER.

NOT SURE IF IT'S SOMETHING THAT I WOULD NORMALLY READ, BUT, YEAH, ALL OF THAT MAGIC STILL EXISTS WE ARE FEE IT IS AND SUPPORTING.

>> JON, WHAT'S NEXT FOR THIS?

>> WE'LL SEE HOW IT GOES AND WE'LL WE'LL SEE IF THERE ARE OTHER PLACES IN THE AIRPORT WHERE WE CAN PUT ANOTHER LIBRARY OR HAVE A SPECIALIZED ONE MAYBE JUST FOR KIDS OR WHATEVER.

IT'S BEEN AN EXCITING FIRST COUPLE OF DAYS AND GREAT PARTNERSHIP AND HAPPY TO HAVE IT.

>> LOVE IT, JON, LEE, THANK YOU SO MUCH.

GOOD READING TO BOTH OF YOU.

>> YEAH.

>> "POMPEII: THE EXHIBITION", IS OPEN FOR A LIMITED TIME AT ARIZONA SCIENCE CENTER.

THE GALLERY FEATURES OVER 150 DIFFERENT ARTIFACTS FROM CITY THAT WAS BURIED IN ASH FOLLOWING THE ERUPTION OF MOUNT VESUVIUS MORE THAN 2,000 YEARS AGO.

CHRISTINA ESTES RECENTLY SAT DOWN WITH ALIX BIERSON TO LEARN MORE ABOUT THIS EXHIBIT.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR COMING IN.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR HAVING ME TODAY.

>> BEFORE WE JUMP INTO THE EXHIBIT, WILL YOU PROVIDE CONTEXT ABOUT THE SIGNIFICANCE, BECAUSE POMPEII WAS A REALLY HAPPENING CITY, RIGHT?

>> ABSOLUTELY.

SO IN 49A.D.

POMPEII WOULD HAVE BEEN, WELL, AN ITALIAN RESORT CITY.

IT WAS A BIG PORT AREA, A BUNCH OF TRADE CAME AND RATHER LIKE MAPLE TODAY, IT WAS KIND OF THE PLACE TO BE IN ANCIENT ROME, A BUNCH OF SENATORS WOULD VACATION THERE.

PEOPLE WOULD SET UP MARKET STALLS.

IT WAS A BEAUTIFUL SPOT.

>> AND WHAT HAPPENED?

>> AND THEN THE VAL VOLCANO ERUPTED IN IN 49 A. D THAT MOUNT VESUVIUS ERUPTED AND WITHIN 24 HOURS, THE BEAUTIFUL, HAPPENING RESORT TOWN WAS BURIED UNDER 12 FEET OF ASH AND STONE.

AND COMPLETELY DISAPPEARED FROM THE MAP UNTIL IT WAS REDISCOVERED IN THE 1740s.

>> VISITORS FROM THE ARIZONA SCIENCE CENTER WILL EXPERIENCE THE IMPACT THROUGH THIS IMMERSE.

EXPERIENCE CAN YOU SORT OF DESCRIBE WHAT VISITORS CAN EXPECT?

>> ABSOLUTELY.

WHEN YOU FIRST ENTER THE EXHIBITION YOU ARE GOING TO SORT OF WALK THROUGH A VIEW OF DAY ARE YOU LIFE.

WE HAVE OVER 100 ORIGINAL AUTHENTIC ARTIFACTS WHERE YOU GET FOR SEE EVERYTHING FROM BEAUTIFUL STATUE IRRELEVANT A TO LITERALLY THE POTS AND PANS THAT PEOPLE WERE USING IN THEIR KITCHENS.

WE HAVE AN IMMERSIVE THEATER WHERE YOU CAN EXPERIENCE THE ERUPTION FROM THE CITY AND WATCH THE FULL 24 HOURS.

>> HOW DO PEOPLE RESPOND TO THAT.

SOUNDS LIKE IT CAN BE VERY JARRING.

>> WE DO A LOT OF WORK TO TRY TO PREPARE YOU, YOU KNOW, THE THING ABOUT THE HISTORICAL STORY IS WE DO ALREADY KNOW HOW IT ENDED.

BUT OUR FACILITATORS DO A REALLY GREAT JOB FOR THAT IMMERSIVE THEATER OF GIVING FOLKS A HEADS UP OF WHAT THEY ARE ABOUT TO SEE AND PREPARING THEM FOR WHAT COMES AFTER THAT.

WHICH IS THE OPPORTUNITY TO VIEW A FEW OF THE CASTS OF INDIVIDUALS THAT WERE BURIED DURING THE ERUPTION.

>> WHAT'S THAT LIKE?

I MEAN, YOU HAVE OBVIOUSLY EXPERIENCED IT AND YOU HAVE SEEN IT.

>> YEAH.

IT'S VERY POWERFUL.

FOR ME COMING FROM A EARTH SCIENCE GEOLOGY BACKGROUND THIS IS THE LAUGH OF ME LIKE THIS IS REALLY, REALLY COOL.

THERE IS THE HUMAN HALF OF ME THAT'S VERY MUCH PERSONALLY IMPACTED OF LIKE SEEING THAT THESE ARE PEOPLE NOT DIFFERENT FROM YOU OR I THAT WERE CAUGHT IN THIS NATURAL DISASTER.

THE EXHIBITION DOES A GREAT OF GREAT JOB I WAS BUT THE SPACE TOO CONNECT WITH THE PEOPLE FROM 2,000 YEARS AGO.

>> YOU MENTIONED THINGS LIKE POTS AND PANS AND KITCHENS.

I KNOW THERE IS LIKE A SOLDIER'S HELMET.

JEWELRY.

ALL OF THESE PERSONAL ITEMS.

HOW ARE THEY GUESS PLAYED?

AND HOW DO YOU HELP VISITORS CONNECTION THEM TO HUMANS?

>> YEAH, SO AS YOU GO THROUGH, A LOT OF THE ARTIFACTS FOR PRESERVATION PURPOSES ARE WITHIN CASES.

THERE ARE A FEW THAT ARE SORT OF FREESTANDING.

WITH JUST A LITTLE BIT OF A WALL TO KEEP YOU FROM REACHING OUT AND TOUCHING THEM, BECAUSE, OF COURSE, WE CAN'T ALLOW THAT.

THERE IS JUST A LITTLE BIT TOO DELICATE.

YOU CAN GET UP CLOSE WITH THEM IN A WAY THAT YOU CAN'T IF YOU GO TO THE ACTUAL ARCHEOLOGICAL SITE IN ITALY.

AND THERE IS A BUNCH OF INFORMATION DESCRIBING WHAT IS THERE.

THERE IS ALSO A BUNCH OF VIDEOS THROUGHOUT TALKING ABOUT HOW PEOPLE WOULD HAVE USED THE OBJECT OR WHAT DAILY LIFE WOULD HAVE LOOKED LIKE FOR THE PEOPLE OF POMPEII.

>> YOU LOOK WITH THE EXHIBITION EVERY DAY.

IS THERE AN OBJECT OR A MOMENT THAT STAYS WITH YOU?

>> I THINK MY TWO FAVORITE PARTS OF THE EXHIBITION THERE ARE THESE THREE LITTLE POTS THAT HAVE POWDERED PIGMENTS IN THEM THAT ARE ALSO 2,000 YEARS OLD.

THEY LOOK JUST LIKE WATER COLOR POTS.

AND KNOWING THAT, YOU KNOW, WE ARE NOT GOING TO, BUT YOU COULD ADD WATER TO THAT AND YOU COULD STILL PAYMENT WITH THOSE.

THAT IS REALLY INCREDIBLE TO ME.

AND THEN THERE IS FIRST TIME OUT OF ITALY, THERE IS A PIECE OF WALL GRAFFITI WHERE PEOPLE WROTE LIKE I FORGET THE EXACT NAMES, BUT "A" WAS HERE WITH "B."

AND THEN SOMEONE ELSE WROTE A BIG ROMANTIC POEM.

AND IT'S THE SAME KINDS OF GRAFFITI THAT YOU WOULD SEE IN JUST LIKE A PARK OR AGAINST A WALL HERE TODAY.

PEOPLE HAVEN'T CHANGED.

>> AMAZING WHEN YOU THINK OF 2000 YEARS THAT THIS IS HERE AT THE ARIZONA SCIENCE CENTER.

THIS IS THE LAST STOP ON THE NORTH AMERICAN TOUR.

HOW CAN PEOPLE GET TICKETS?

WHEN DOES IT ACTUALLY END?

WHAT'S YOUR PITCH?

YOUR LAST PITCH FOR PEOPLE?

>> ABSOLUTELY.

SOCIETY EXHIBITION WILL BE WITH THROUGH APRIL 12th.

ALL A COUPLE OF NEAR WEEKS TO SEE IT.

YOU CAN COME VISIT IT.

IT IS EXTRA TICKET ON TOP OF GENERAL ADMISSION IF YOU COME DURING THE DAYTIME.

WE ALSO HAVE ON SELECT FRIDAYS AND SATURDAYS WE ARE GOING TO HAVE AFTER HOURS WHERE YOU CAN COME GET A SPECIAL TICKET JUST FOR THAT PERIOD OF TIME FROM 5-LAST CENTURY 8:00 P.M.

COME IN AND JUST SEE THE EXHIBITION IN THE EVENINGS.

>> I LOVE AFTER HOURS, THAT'S GREAT.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> OF COURSE.

>> ALIX BIERSON WITH THE ARIZONA SCIENCE CENTER.

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> THAT'S ALL FOR THIS EDITION OF "ARIZONA HORIZON", A THINK STEVE GOLDSTEIN IN FOR TED SIMONS, THANKS FOR WATCHING,.

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