
Expert Roundtable on the Rise of AI
Clip: 7/27/2023 | 5m 50sVideo has Closed Captions
Nina Schick, Connor Leahy, Priya Lakhani and Wendy Hall join the show.
Whether AI "makes our societies more or less equitable, unlocks breakthroughs or becomes a tool of authoritarians — is up to us." That is the warning, and the call to arms, from the Biden administration this week. In just a few short months, the power and the peril of AI have become the focus of huge public debate. To assess all this, Christiane hosts a panel of leaders in the field of AI.
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Expert Roundtable on the Rise of AI
Clip: 7/27/2023 | 5m 50sVideo has Closed Captions
Whether AI "makes our societies more or less equitable, unlocks breakthroughs or becomes a tool of authoritarians — is up to us." That is the warning, and the call to arms, from the Biden administration this week. In just a few short months, the power and the peril of AI have become the focus of huge public debate. To assess all this, Christiane hosts a panel of leaders in the field of AI.
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Learn Moreabout PBS online sponsorshipWHAT I WANT TO KNOW IS FROM EACH ONE OF YOU LITERALLY IS WHAT KEEPS YOU UP AT NIGHT.
YOU ARE THE EXPERTS.
FOR GOOD OR FOR BAD.
I'M GOING TO START WITH YOU.
>> WE CAN CONCEIVE OF IT AS US BEING NOW ON THE CUSP, I THINK, OF A PROFOUND CHANGE IN OUR RELATIONSHIP TO MACHINES THAT'S GOING TO TRANSFORM THE WAY WE LIVE, WORK, EVEN TRANSFORM OUR EXPERIENCE OF WHAT IT MEANS TO BE HUMAN.
THAT'S HOW SEISMIC THIS IS.
IF YOU CONSIDER THE EXPONENTIAL TECHNOLOIES OF THE PAST 30 YEARS, FROM THE INTERNET TO CLOUD TO THE SMARTPHONE, IT'S ALL ABOUT BUILDING A DIGITAL INFRASTRUCTURE AND ECOSYSTEM, WHICH IS A FUNDAMENTAL TENENT OF LIFE.
AI TAKES IT FURTHER.
WITH AI AND IN PARTICULAR GENERATIVE AI, WHICH IS WHAT I HAVE BEEN FOLLOWING AND TRACKING, YOU ARE LOOKING AT THE INFORMATION REVOLUTION BECOMING AN INTELLIGENCE REVOLUTION.
THESE ARE MACHINES THAT ARE NOW CAPABLE OF DOING THINGS THAT WE THOUGHT WERE ONLY UNIQUE TO HUMAN CREATIVITY AND HUMAN INTELLIGENCE.
THE IMPACT OF THIS AS A WHOLE FOR THE LABOR MARKET, FOR THE WAY WE WORK, FOR THE WAY THAT -- THE FRAMEWORK OF SOCIETY UNFOLDS IS JUST SO IMPORTANT.
MY BACKGROUND IS GEOPOLITICS WHERE I ADVISE.
THE REASON I BECAME INTERESTED IN AI IS NOT BECAUSE I HAVE A TECH BACKGROUND.
I HAVE A BACKGROUND ASSESSING TRENDS FORSTORY FOR HUMANITY AND HOW WE DECIDE THIS TECHNOLOGY IS GOING TO UNFOLD IN OUR COMPANIES, WITHIN ENTERPRISE, VERY EXCITING, BUT ALSO SOCIETY.
THE FINAL THING IS, WE HAVE AGENCY.
A LOT OF THE DEBATE HAS BEEN ABOUT AI AUTONOMOUSLY TAKING OVER.
I WANT TO DIVORCE THAT HYPOTHETICAL SCENARIO WITH THE REALITY.
THAT IS, WE DECIDE.
>> CONNOR, YOU BELIEVE -- WE HAVE SPOKEN BEFORE -- THAT THESE MACHINES ARE GOING TO BE SO POWERFUL AND SO UNABLE TO CONTROL BY HUMAN INPUT THAT THEY ACTUALLY COULD TAKE OVER.
>> UNFORTUNATELY, I DO THINK THIS IS A POSSIBILITY.
I EXPECT IT.
I WOULD LIKE TO AGREE WITH NINA THAT WE HAVE AGENCY.
THIS DOESN'T HAVE TO HAPPEN.
YOU ASKED THE QUESTION EARLIER, WHAT KEEPS ME UP AT NIGHT.
WHAT KEEPS ME UP AT NIGHT IS A COUPLE MILLION YEARS AGO, THE COMMON ANCESTOR SPLIT INTO TWO SUBSPECIES.
ONE DEVELOPED A LARGER BRAIN THAN THE OTHER.
ONE GOES TO THE MOON AND BUILDS NUCLEAR WEAPONS.
ONE DOESN'T.
ONE IS AT THE COMPLETE MERCY OF THE OTHER.
ONE OF THEM HAS FULL CONTROL.
I THINK THIS KIND OF RELATIONSHIP TO TECHNOLOGY CAN HAPPEN.
I'M NOT SAYING IT CAN'T.
UNLESS WE TAKE OUR AGENCY, WE SEE THAT WE ARE IN CONTROL, WE ARE BUILDING THE TECHNOLOGIES AND AS SOCIETY WE DECIDE TO GO A DIFFERENT PATH.
>> TO FOLLOW UP ON THAT, THE SAME QUESTION TO YOU BUT FROM THE POINT OF VIEW OF HOW DO WE HAVE AGENCY, EXPRESS AGENCY AND REGULATE?
YOU ARE A PRIVATE ENTREPRENEUR.
YOU HAVE BEEN ON THE BRITISH GOVERNMENT'S REGULATION COUNCIL.
DIVERSITY, AGENCY AND THAT THE MACHINES DON'T TAKE OVER?
>> WHAT IT TAKES TO ENSURE THAT IS, IT'S A LOT OF WORK.
THERE'S LOTS OF IDEAS, THEORIES.
THERE ARE WHITE PAPERS.
THERE'S A PRO-INNOVATION REGULATION REVIEW I WORKED ON IN THE UK.
THE U.S. GOVERNMENT HAS BEEN ISSUING GUIDANCE.
THE EU IS ISSUING ITS OWN LAWS AND GUIDANCE.
WE WANT TO SEE EXECUTION.
ON WHAT KEEPS YOU UP AT NIGHT, I FEEL SORRY FOR MY HUSBAND.
WHAT KEEPS ME UP IS OTHER ISSUES SUCH AS THINGS LIKE DISINFORMATION WITH GENERATIVE AI.
I HAVE TWO CHILDREN.
ARE THEY GOING TO GROW UP WHY A WORLD WHERE THEY CAN TRUST INFORMATION AND WHAT'S OUT THERE?
ARE THESE TECHNOLOGIES, BECAUSE OF LACK OF EXECUTION, ON THE SIDE OF POLICYMAKERS, MEANS THAT IT'S A FREE-FOR-ALL.
BAD ACTORS HAVE ACCESS TO THIS TECHNOLOGY.
YOU DON'T KNOW WHAT TO TRUST.
THE BIGGEST THING IS A FLIP FROM WHAT WE HEARD HERE.
ARE WE AS A HUMAN RACE, ARE WE GOING TO BENEFIT FROM THE OPPORTUNITIES THAT ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE ENABLES?
WE OFTEN TALK -- FORGIVE ME, BUT FOR THE LAST SIX MONTHS IT HAS BEEN ABOUT CHATGPT.
THAT'S WHERE THE DISCUSSION SHOULD BE PLACED.
BUT WE HAVE TRADITIONAL AI.
WE HAVE ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE WHERE WE HAVE BEEN USING DATA, WE HAVE BEEN CLASSIFYING, PREDICTING, LOOKING AT SCANS AND SPOTTING CANCER WHERE WE THOUGHT A LACK OF RADIOLOGISTS -- WE CAN AUGMENT TEACHING AND LEARNING.
HOW ARE WE GOING TO ENSURE THAT ALL AROUND SOCIETY WE DON'T EXACERBATE THE DIGITAL DIVIDE BUT WE LEVERAGE ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE FOR THE BEST IT CAN PROVIDE TO HELP US IN HEALTH CARE, EDUCATION, SECURITY?
IT'S SCARY TO THINK WE'RE NOT USING IT TO ITS FULL ADVANTAGE, WHILE WE ALSO MUST FOCUS ON THE RISK AND CONCERNS.
I HAVE THIS -- I FEEL SORRY FOR MY HUSBAND, BECAUSE I'M TAPPING ON HIS SHOULDER, WHAT ABOUT THIS, WHAT ABOUT THAT.
>> WE NEED MANY DIFFERENT VOICES HELPING US BUILD AND DESIGN THESE SYSTEMS AND MAKE SURE THEY'RE SAFE.
NOT JUST THE TECHNICAL TEAMS THAT ARE WORKING AT THE COMPANIES TO BUILD THE AI, TALKING TO THE GOVERNMENT ABOUT WE NEED WOMEN, WE NEED AGE RANGE, WE NEED DIVERSITY FROM DIFFERENT SUBJECT AREAS, WE NEED LOTS OF DIFFERENT VOICES.
THAT'S WHAT KEEPS ME AWAKE AT NIGHT.
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