CHRISTINA: COMING UP NEXT ON "ARIZONA HORIZON," NEW TARIFFS ON MEXICO, CANADA AND CHINA WERE IMPOSED BY PRESIDENT TRUMP.

WHAT COULD THIS MEAN FOR THE ECONOMY?

>>> TRUMP'S PICK TO LEAD U.S. DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION CONFIRMED BY THE SENATE.

WE'LL DISCUSS WHAT'S AHEAD AS THE PRESIDENT PUSHES TO DISMANTLE THE FEDERAL AGENCY?

>>> AND WE'LL DISCUSS HOW TO HELP PEOPLE IN NEED THROUGH HEALTHY GIVING.

THAT'S NEXT ON "ARIZONA HORIZON."

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CHRISTINA: GOOD EVENING, AND WELCOME TO "ARIZONA HORIZON."

I'M CHRISTINA ESTES IN FOR TED SIMONS.

TRADE WAR STARTED.

PRESIDENT DONALD TRUMP ANNOUNCED 25% TARIFFS ON MOST MEXICAN AND CANADIAN GOODS ALONG WITH ADDITIONAL 10% ON CHINA RAISING THOSE TARIFFS TO 20%.

CANADA WASTED NO TIME WITH TARIFFS ON AMERICAN GOODS.

MEXICO PLANS TO ANNOUNCE RETALIATORY TARIFFS THIS SUNDAY.

CHINA HIT BACK WITH 15% TARIFFS ON WHEAT, CHICKEN, CORN AND COTTON.

TRUMP SAID THE THREE COUNTRIES FAILED TO STEM THE FLOW OF FENTANYL AND PRECURSOR CHEMICALS INTO THE U.S. WALL STREET REACTING WITH THE DOW DROPPING 670 POINTS.

CEOs FROM TARGET AND COSTCO SAYS THE PRICE OF FRUITS AND VEGETABLES ARE LIKELY TO RISE IN THE NEXT COUPLE OF DAYS.

SOME EXPERTS FEAR A TRADE WAR COULD LEAD TO A 1930s-STYLE DEPRESSION.

WE'LL DISCUSS THE IMPACT OF TARIFFS COMING UP AFTER THE HEADLINES.

>>> PRESIDENT TRUMP WILL GIVE FIRST ADDRESS TO CONGRESS, IT WILL AIR AT 7:00 AND YOU CAN WATCH IT ON ARIZONA PBS.

IT IS NOT OFFICIAL STATE OF THE UNION ADDRESS BECAUSE THAT WILL NOT COME UNTIL AFTER TRUMP'S FIRST YEAR IN OFFICE.

SOME DEMOCRATS ARE PLANNING NOT TO ATTEND.

>>> UKRAINIAN PRESIDENT ZELENSKY EXPRESSING REGRET OVER OVAL OFFICE BLOWUP WITH PRESIDENT TRUMP.

ZELENSKY SAID, QUOTE, IT IS TIME TO MAKE THINGS RIGHT.

REMARKS CAME HOURS AFTER THE WHITE HOUSE ANNOUNCED A PAUSE ON MILITARY AID TO UKRAINE.

ZELENSKY SAID UKRAINE IS READY TO SIGN A DEAL ON SECURITY AND RARE EARTH MINERALS WITH WASHINGTON.

>>> FORMER U.S. SENATE AND GUBERNATORIAL CANDIDATE KARI LAKE WAS SWORN IN YESTERDAY AS THE HEAD OF THE U.S. AGENCY FOR GLOBAL MEDIA, APPOINTED BY PRESIDENT TRUMP TO LEAD THE AGENCY WHICH INCLUDES VOICE OF AMERICA, A PRO AMERICAN NEWS NETWORK.

TRUMP SENIOR ADVISER ELON MUSK HAS SUGGESTED THAT AGENCY BE DISMANTLED.

>>> PRESIDENT TRUMP'S TARIFFS AGAINST PRODUCTS FROM MEXICO AND CANADA AND INCREASING TARIFFS ON CHINA WILL IMPACT ARIZONA.

MEXICO IS OUR STATE'S LARGEST TRADING PARTNER FOLLOWED BY CANADA.

JOINING US VIA ZOOM IS DANNY COURT, SENIOR PRINCIPAL ECONOMIST AT ELLIOTT D. POLLACK, WHAT WAS YOUR FIRST REACTION WHEN YOU HEARD THIS?

>> ABOUT THE SAME REACTION I HAD ABOUT A MONTH AGO, WHEN THEY WERE ANNOUNCED.

A LOT OF HEAD SCRATCHING AND HEADACHES.

IT'S CAUSING QUITE A LOT OF TURMOIL.

CHRISTINA: SOME OF THE COUNTRIES REACTED QUICKLY BY ANNOUNCING THEIR OWN TARIFFS.

WHAT DO YOU SEE HAPPENING IN THE NEXT FEW DAYS, IN THE FEW WEEKS?

IS THIS GOING TO GO BACK AND FORTH OR DO YOU THINK PEOPLE WILL COOL OFF A LITTLE BIT?

I HAVE NO IDEA WHAT TO ASK YOU BECAUSE I'M NOT SURE WHAT WILL HAPPEN?

>> WELL, IT'S MY HOPE THAT IT'S SHORT-LIVED, BUT THAT WAS EXPECTED.

THESE ARE THE RIPPLE EFFECTS THAT OCCUR WHEN TARIFFS ARE IMPOSED IS THERE'S RETALIATION WHICH IS OCCURRING, WE'RE EXPECTING MEXICO TO RETALIATE.

PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS ALREADY INDICATED THERE'S RECIPROCAL TARIFFS ANY TIME SOMEONE RETALIATES, SO THERE'S A PROMISE THAT OUR TARIFFS INCREASE AS A RESULT OF A REACTION.

SO IT DOESN'T LOOK PROMISING AT THIS POINT, AND WE'RE REACHING A LEVEL BOTH THE LEVEL OF TARIFFS AND THE KIND OF THE BASKET OF GOODS THAT WE'RE NOW AFFECTING, EFFECTIVELY 45% OF ALL IMPORTS ARE FROM THOSE THREE COUNTRIES, AND WHEN YOU ADD 10 TO 25% TARIFFS, WE KNOW PRICES ARE GOING TO GO UP.

CHRISTINA: WHAT SORT OF IMPACT DO YOU THINK THAT WILL HAVE ON CONSUMERS AND OUR OVERALL ECONOMY?

>> WELL, AGAIN, BECAUSE IT'S SO WIDESPREAD WITH THE THREE COUNTRIES AND A THREAT OF IMPOSING TARIFFS ON THE EUROPEAN UNION, IT'S BASICALLY AFFECTING MOST PRODUCTS THAT WE TEND TO BUY AS AN AMERICAN CONSUMER.

THE AUTOMOBILE INDUSTRY LOOKS TO HIT HARD, LIKE WAS MENTIONED BEFORE, PRODUCE, FRUITS AND VEGETABLES, OTHER GROCERY ITEMS, AND THE RETALIATIONS AFFECT OUR AMERICAN BUSINESSES, THOSE THAT ARE TRYING TO EXPORT OUR GOODS, HAVE A HARDER TIME DOING SO.

IT HAS WIDESPREAD EFFECTS BOTH IN TERMS OF ECONOMIC GROWTH AND CONSUMER SPENDING AND INFLATION.

CHRISTINA: TRUMP HAS SAID THAT OPEN TRADE HAS COST AMERICANS MILLIONS OF JOBS AND TARIFFS WILL LEAD TO PROSPERITY.

SOME ECONOMISTS SAY THAT'S COMPLETELY WRONG.

IT'S INEFFICIENT, NOT THE WAY TO GO.

WHO'S RIGHT?

>> WELL, THE ECONOMISTS, OF COURSE.

YOU KNOW, THOSE THAT SAY THAT TARIFFS COULD BE A GOOD THING, THEY'RE POINTING TO IDEAS LIKE BRINGING MANUFACTURING BACK TO THE UNITED STATES, INCREASING JOBS LOCALLY.

GIVING LOCAL PRODUCERS THE UPPER HAND.

INCREASING JOBS THAT WAY, SO AND SOME OF THOSE THINGS COULD OCCUR, BUT WE'RE LOSING OUT ON THE IN FACT THERE ARE OTHER COUNTRIES THAT HAVE THESE SPECIALIZATIONS, THEY'VE GOT THE INFRASTRUCTURE IN PLACE, THERE ARE PLACES WITH LOWER COSTS OF LIVING, LOWER WAGES THAT CAN LEVERAGE THAT IN TERMS OF LOWER COST OF GOODS, AND SO, YOU KNOW, IT WOULD TAKE A VERY LONG TIME TO BRING A LOT OF THOSE JOBS BACK, AND IN THE MEANTIME, WE WILL BE SUFFERING FROM THE INFLATIONARY EFFECTS OF HIGHER PRICES.

SO IT'S ALSO, THEY'RE ALSO LOSERS IN OTHER INDUSTRIES AS WELL.

SO THE HIGHER PRICE OF GOODS, IT GOES INTO INPUTS, THE PRODUCERS, IT'S JUST GOING TO RAISE COSTS, AND IT IMPACTS OTHER INDUSTRIES.

SO WE COULD HAVE JOB GAINS IN SOME INDUSTRIES AND JOB LOSSES IN OTHERS.

CHRISTINA: CAN YOU TALK ABOUT THE IMPACT IN ARIZONA BECAUSE MEXICO AND CANADA, THEY'RE RESPONSIBLE FOR TENS OF BILLIONS IN IMPORTS AND EXPORTS EVERY YEAR FOR OUR STATE.

WHAT WILL HAPPEN US TO HERE?

>> YEAH, WE'RE GOING TO BE EXPERIENCING REALLY BIG SUPPLY CHAIN DISRUPTIONS.

THERE ARE GOING TO BE DECISIONS MADE WHETHER TO ACCEPT THE HIGHER PRICE, TO TRY TO ABSORB SOME OF IT, PASS THE REST ONTO CONSUMERS OR SEEKING ALTERNATIVES, EITHER DOMESTICALLY OR IN OTHER COUNTRIES THAT AREN'T EXPERIENCING THESE TARIFFS.

SO, AGAIN, IT'S -- ARIZONA IS A FUNCTION OF THE UNITED STATES ECONOMY, AND YOU KNOW, WE'RE GOING TO BE AS AFFECTED JUST AS MUCH AS ANY OTHER PLACE.

CHRISTINA: INVESTOR WARREN BUFFETT SAID A TARIFF IS, QUOTE, AN ACT OF WAR.

IS THAT EXTREME, OR CAN TARIFFS LEAD TO WAR?

>> AS YOU SEE THE REACTION COMING OUT OF THE COUNTRIES THAT ARE IMPACTED, THERE'S SOME VERY, VERY STERN LANGUAGE COMING OUT OF THOSE COUNTRIES.

CANADA, BASICALLY THEY FEEL LIKE WE'RE TRYING TO IMPLODE THEIR ECONOMY, AND THAT'S NOT TOO FAR FROM DECLARING THIS AN ACT OF WAR.

WE'RE CERTAINLY STRAINING OUR RELATIONSHIPS WITH ALLIES AND WITH TRADE PARTNERS AND THE LONG-TERM EFFECT ARE STILL UNKNOWN.

CHRISTINA: DANNY COURT, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR TAKING TIME TO TALK ABOUT THIS.

REALLY IMPORTANT AND DIFFICULT TO UNDERSTAND FOR A LOT OF PEOPLE.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

>> SURE THING.

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CHRISTINA: LINDA McMAHON, PRESIDENT TRUMP'S PICK TO LEAD THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION, WAS CONFIRMED BY THE SENATE YESTERDAY.

TRUMP SAID HE WANTS McMAHON TO, QUOTE, PUT HERSELF OUT OF A JOB.

OUR NEXT GUEST IS PAYING CLOSE ATTENTION TO THE ADMINISTRATION'S PLAN, MARISOL GARCIA IS PRESIDENT OF THE EDUCATION ASSOCIATION, A LABOR UNION REPRESENTING MORE THAN 20,000 TEACHERS, LIBRARIANS, COUNSELORS AND OTHERS.

THANK YOU FOR COMING IN.

>> SURE.

CHRISTINA: SO WHAT WAS YOUR REACTION TO LINDA McMAHON.

NOW THAT I CAN SAY HER NAME WITHOUT STUMBLING OVER IT.

HER CONFIRMATION?

>> NOT A SURPRISE BUT A TON OF DISAPPOINTMENT.

OUR STUDENTS DESERVE SO MUCH BETTER THAN UNDERQUALIFIED PERSON LEADING THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION.

CHRISTINA: TRUMP SAID HE WANTS THAT AGENCY TO BE GONE, THAT HE THINKS THE STATES SHOULD HANDLE THAT.

WHAT WOULD YOU SAY TO SOMEBODY WHO SAYS WHAT'S WRONG WITH THAT?

>> PEOPLE HAVE A DEEP MISUNDERSTANDING WHAT THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION DOES.

IT HAS VERY LITTLE INFLUENCE IN CURRICULUM, WHAT'S HAPPENING IN SCHOOLS.

REALLY WHAT IT OFFERS IS TWO, THREE IMPORTANT THINGS.

ONE, RESEARCH WHAT'S BEST FOR KIDS.

THERE'S A LOT OF RESEARCH GRANTS THAT COME OUT OF THE U.S. DEPARTMENT OF ED.

TWO, THEY FUND, THEY'RE THE PATH FOR MONEY FOR STUDENTS WITH DISABILITIES, STUDENTS UNDERSERVED, STUDENTS IN POVERTY, THEY RECEIVE THE EXTRA FUNDING NEEDED TO OPEN OPPORTUNITIES, AND THREE, THEY ARE SAFEGUARDS.

IF THERE ARE ISSUES HAPPENING IN SCHOOLS WHERE STUDENTS ARE TREATED IMPROPERLY, THEY CAN DO AN INVESTIGATION FROM OUTSIDE TO SEE HOW IT CAN HELP.

CHRISTINA: CONGRESS CREATED THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION IN 1979.

ONLY CONGRESS HAS THE POWER TO ELIMINATE IT.

CONGRESS IS REPUBLICAN MAJORITY.

MANY SUPPORT PRESIDENT TRUMP.

WHAT DO YOU THINK WILL HAPPEN?

>> I'M HOPEFUL THAT LEGISLATORS, OR CONGRESS FOLKS GO BACK TO TALK TO THEIR COMMUNITIES.

THEY CONTINUE TO HAVE TOWN HALLS SPECIFICALLY IN RURAL ARIZONA, IN CITIES ACROSS THE COUNTRY TO UNDERSTAND THAT.

THERE'S AN ADDITIONAL AMOUNT OF MONEY THAT GOES TO SMALL SCHOOL DISTRICTS TO KEEP THEM OPEN.

CHRISTINA: COLLEGES AND UNIVERSITIES ACROSS THE STATE HAVE BEEN MAKING CHANGES, BASED ON ORDERS FROM THE DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION, FROM THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION, ELIMINATING LANGUAGE THAT RELATES TO DIVERSITY, EQUITY AND INCLUSION, ELIMINATING GROUPS RELATED TO DEI EFFORTS.

WHAT DO YOU THINK OF K-12 SCHOOLS ON FOCUS?

>> MILLION DOLLAR GRANTS COMING FROM THE FEDERAL DEPARTMENT OF EDUCATION WERE GOING TO BE CUT.

THAT MONEY IS DIRECTLY INTENDED TO FUND TEACHERS.

IT IS A WEIRD TIME TO HEAR THE WORD EQUITY AS A BAD WORD, TO USE THE WORDS THE SUPERINTENDENT TOM HORNE.

IN EDUCATION, WE USE EQUITY EVERY SINGLE DAY.

I HAVE STUDENTS WHO COME IN WITH LIMITED READING SKILLS, STUDENTS THAT HAVE EXCELLED IN MATH.

I HAVE STUDENTS THAT LOVE THE CIVIL WAR AND COULD TEACH BUT THE CIVIL WAR.

I HAVE TO MAKE SURE THERE IS EQUITY TO MAKE SURE THE OPPORTUNITIES OPEN UP.

EQUITY IS BUILT INTO THE SYSTEM.

CHRISTINA: THE DEPARTMENT CANCELED A LOT OF CONTRACTS, QUOTING WASTEFUL AND IDEOLOGICALLY DRIVEN SPENDING NOT IN THE INTEREST OF STUDENTS AND TAXPAYERS.

>> YES.

CHRISTINA: NOT EVERY FEDERAL GRANT, NOT EVERY FEDERAL DOLLAR IS SPENT IN THE MOST EFFICIENT, PRODUCTIVE WAY.

>> IF WE WANT TO HAVE A CONVERSATION ABOUT SXESHS GOVERNMENT GRANTS, TALK TO THE PEOPLE WHO ACTUALLY USE THEM.

SHOULDN'T COME FROM D.C.

THE GRANTS SHOULD TALK TO THE TEACHERS IN OSBORNE OR GADZTON WHO ARE POTENTIALLY GOING TO LOSE THEIR JOB AND ASK WHERE THERE MIGHT BE GRANTS OF FISCAL EFFICIENCY THAT COULD HAPPEN.

THE WORKERS SHOULD BE INVOLVED IN THE CONVERSATIONS NOT JUST SOMEBODY FROM WASHINGTON, D.C. >> WHAT ARE YOU HEARING FROM YOUR MEMBERS, YOU HAVE A DIVERSE GROUP OF MEMBERS.

>> WE'RE LIVING LIKE EVERY OTHER AMERICAN, WE'RE AFRAID WHAT THIS MEANS TO OUR HOMES, COMMUNITIES, TO OUR FAMILIES.

HOW ARE WE GOING TO CONTINUE TO BE EXPLOITED IN A WORKING CONDITION THAT EXPECTED US TO CONTINUE TO EXPAND OUR ROLE AND TO KNOW GET PAID LESS.

WHAT WILL HAPPEN WITH THIS PRIVATIZATION EFFORT OR DISMANTLING THE DEPARTMENT OF ED IS WE'LL HAVE LARGER CLASS SIZES, BEFORE AND AFTER SCHOOL PROGRAMS CUT, SPORTS PROGRAMS, ALL THE THINGS THAT MAKE OUR STUDENTS WANT TO DO WELL AND THRIVE, THEY WILL LOSE THAT.

THIS WILL IMPACT ALL OF US.

CHRISTINA: WHAT GUIDANCE ARE YOU GIVING OUR ABLE TO GIVE YOUR MEMBERS?

>> THE MORE OF US THAT RAISE OUR VOICES THAT SHOW UP AND TALK AND TELL STORIES HOW TO IMPACTS NOT JUST OUR STUDENTS BUT OUR OWN FAMILIES, WE HAVE STORIES TO TELL AND THE STORIES ARE SACRED, AND SCHOOLS ARE THE LIFEBLOOD OF THE COMMUNITY.

IF THE SCHOOLS ARE NOT DOING WELL, THE COMMUNITY IS STRUGGLING.

IF WE CAN ALL RALLY AROUND OUR PUBLIC SCHOOLS, WE'LL SEE OUR COMMUNITIES CONTINUE TO GROW BE AND STRONG.

CHRISTINA: WHAT DO YOU SEE HAPPENING IN THE NEXT FEW MONTHS?

>> IT'S GOING TO BE ROUGH.

YOU'LL SEE A LOT OF YOUR FAVORITE TEACHERS LOSE THEIR JOBS.

WE'LL SEE PARAPROFESSIONALS NOT BE ABLE TO SHIP ON TO WORK.

CAFETERIAS TURN INTO SWIPE A CARD AND GET SOMETHING OUT OF A MACHINE.

WE'RE GOING TO LOSE THE LIFEBLOOD OF THE PUBLIC GOOD OF PUBLIC EDUCATION THAT HAS BUILT THIS COUNTRY.

CHRISTINA: TOUGH CONVERSATION, MARISOL GARCIA, THANK YOU SO MUCH, APPRECIATE YOUR TIME.

>> THANK YOU.

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CHRISTINA: OUR NEXT GUEST IS AN ADVOCATE FOR HEALTHY GIVING, THAT'S URGING PEOPLE TO HELP THOSE IN NEED BY SUPPORTING ORGANIZATIONS WITH EXPERTISE AND RESOURCES.

PASTOR JEROME PARKER OF FIRST CHRISTIAN CHURCH IN PHOENIX JOINS US TO TALK ABOUT THE HEALTHY GIVING COUNCIL, AND ITS GOALS.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

>> THANKS FOR HAVING ME.

CHRISTINA: YOU'RE SAYING HAVE A HAND UP, NOT A HAND OUT.

>> A HAND UP NOT A HAND OUT.

TRYING TO PROMOTE THE IDEOLOGY OF WHAT IT LOOKS LIKE TO HELP PEOPLE.

IF I GIVE A HAND OUT, THEN IT DEINCENTIVIZES A PERSON TO RESTORE DIGNITY TO HELP THEMSELVES, BUT IF I GIVE THEM A HAND UP, THEN I HAVE TO PULL A LITTLE BIT, THEY HAVE TO PUT EFFORT IN, AND TOGETHER, WE CAN REACH CERTAIN GOALS.

CHRISTINA: DID YOU NOT ALWAYS HAVE THE VIEW OF HEALTHY GIVING, RIGHT?

TELL ME HOW YOU GOT INVOLVED IN THIS?

>> REALLY INTERESTING STORY.

I USED TO BE AN UNHEALTHY GIVER.

THE NONPROFIT WORK WITH INNER CITY TEENAGERS AND THERE WOULD BE TIMES WHEN WE PUT TOGETHER THE SACK LUNCHES AND BRING ALL OF YOUR SWEATERS AND SOCKS AND WHATEVER THINGS YOU WANT TO GIVE AWAY, AND GO DOWNTOWN PHOENIX TO THE ZONE, AND GIVE STUFF AWAY, GIVE FOOD AWAY MOSTLY, AND I REMEMBER THIS ONE PARTICULAR TIME, THE KIDS MADE THE HAM SANDWICHES WITH CHEESE ON THEM, AND THERE'S A MAN EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS AND HE SAYS IS THERE CHEDDAR CHEESE ON THE SANDWICH?

WE'RE LIKE, YES.

SO WE'RE EXCITED BECAUSE WE'RE LIKE, MY GOSH, HE LIKES CHEDDAR CHEESE.

HE THROWS THE SANDWICH ON THE GROUND AND SAYS I'M ALLERGIC TO CHEDDAR CHEESE.

I'M BAFFLED BECAUSE IN MY MIND, HE DOESN'T KNOW WHERE HIS NEXT MEAL IS COMING FROM, RIGHT?

COME TO FIND OUT AFTER TALKING WITH MY WIFE AND HAD DONE WORK WITH THE HOMELESS COMMUNITY, HE DID KNOW HIS NEXT MEAL WAS COMING FROM.

LITERALLY ABOUT 200 FEET FROM WHERE WE WERE PASSING OUT SACK LUNCHES, THE HUMAN SERVICES CAMPUS WAS GIVING THREE MEALS A DAY AND JOB SKILLS AND IMMUNIZATIONS AND HOUSING VOUCHERS AND ALL THE THINGS A PERSON NEEDS TO END THEIR HOMELESSNESS, AND WE WERE PASSING OUT SACK LUNCHES, DEINCENTIVIZING THEM FROM TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THE RESOURCES.

CHRISTINA: YOU RAISE A GOOD POINT WHEN HE SAID I'M ALLERGIC TO CHEDDAR CHEESE, THAT IS AN ISSUE, NOT TO MENTION IT CREATES SOMETIMES LITTER FOR NEIGHBORHOODS AND COMMUNITIES, AND I KNOW YOU WORKED WITH THE CITY OF PHOENIX AND OTHERS TO CREATE THE HEALTHY GIVING COUNCIL BECAUSE THERE THAT WAS A CONCERN FOR NEIGHBORHOODS?

>> YEAH, ABSOLUTELY.

THAT'S ONE OF THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES OF STREET FEEDING AND STREET GIVING.

I BELIEVE ALL HUMANS HAVE THIS INTRINSIC PILOT LIGHT THAT WANTS TO DO SOMETHING GOOD.

WHEN WE GIVE FOOD ON THE STREET, ONE OF THE UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES IS WASTE BECAUSE FOOD GOES UNEATEN OR CLOTHES UNWORN AND THEY ARE TRASH ON THE STRAIGHT IT.

DECIMATES A NEIGHBORHOOD, ATTRACTS PIGEONS AND RODENTS, SOME PARTS OF THE DOWNTOWN AREA THERE WAS A HEPATITIS B BREAKOUT BECAUSE OF JUST THE UNSANITARY CONDITIONS THAT STREET FEETING AND STREET GIVING CONTRIBUTE TO.

WE TRY TO EDUCATE PEOPLE ON HEALTHIER, MORE SUSTAINABLE WAYS TO GIVE TO MEN AND WOMEN EXPERIENCING HOMELESSNESS AND ONE OF THE BEST WAYS IS TO PARTNER WITH THE NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION THAT IS IN THE THROES OF THIS WORK EVERY SINGLE DAY, AND SO I LIKE TO TELL PEOPLE, IF IT TOOK YOU TWO HOURS TO MAKE 100 SACK LUNCHES, TAKE THE SAME TWO HOURS AND INSTEAD OF HELPING 100 PEOPLE FOR 30 MINUTES, YOU COULD HELP 2500 PEOPLE FOR A LIFETIME POSSIBLY.

CHRISTINA: HOW DOES SOMEBODY KNOW A NONPROFIT OR GROUP THAT IS ACTUALLY IN THE TRENCHES, AS YOU SAY?

>> WELL, THEY PROBABLY DON'T, AND THAT'S WHY OUR EDUCATIONAL EFFORTS ARE SO VITAL AND SO IMPORTANT.

WHAT I WOULD TELL THEM, SHAMELESS PLUG, GO TO OUR WEBSITE AND ON THAT WEBSITE, WE HAVE A LITANY OF ORGANIZATIONS HELPING MEN AND WOMEN IN HOMELESSNESS CLOSE THE GAPS IN THEIR LIVES, REUNITE FAMILIES, ANYTHING KEEP A PERSON FROM BEING SHELTERED, THERE IS AN ORGANIZATION TO HELP CLOSE THE GAP.

CHRISTINA: HOW DO YOU KNOW THE HEALTHY GIVING COUNCIL IS HAVING AN IMPACT?

>> WELL, ONE OF THE WAYS IS GET TO DO INTERVIEWS LIKE THIS.

PEOPLE ARE HEARING ABOUT IT.

ANOTHER WAY IS WE HAVE A CLOSE RELATIONSHIP WITH THE CITY OF PHOENIX, AND THEY'RE ABLE TO TRACK HOW MUCH WASTE THEY'RE COLLECTING DURING CERTAIN TIMES OF THE YEAR WHEN STREET FEEDING AND STREET GIVING SPIKES.

WE KEEP TRACK OF THE NUMBERS.

FORTUNATELY THE NUMBERS ARE GOING DOWN, THE TONNAGE OF TRASH ARE COLLECTED.

THE NUMBERS OF STREET FEEDERS AND GIFTERS IS INCREASING.

WE HAVE A LOT OF GOOD WORK TO DO BUT THERE ARE GOOD THINGS HAPPENING.

CHRISTINA: GIVE YOUR SHAMELESS PLUG AGAIN SO PEOPLE CAN GET INFORMATION?

>> I WOULD LIKE EVERYBODY TO KNOW TO GO GIFT SMART AZ.ORG, YOU HAVE A PART TO PLAY TO HELPING PEOPLE IN THE HOMELESSNESS.

CHRISTINA: THANK YOU SO MUCH, PASTOR.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

>> THANK YOU.

>> I APPRECIATE YOU FOR JOINING US FOR "ARIZONA HORIZON."

I'M CHRISTINA ESTES IN FOR TED SIMONS.