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TED: COMING UP NEXT ON "ARIZONA HORIZON," A LOOK AT LEGAL ARGUMENTS FOR AND AGAINST TARIFFS IMPOSED BY PRESIDENT TRUMP.

>>> ALSO TONIGHT, ASU SCHOOL OF BUSINESS OFFERS NEW INTERNSHIP OPPORTUNITIES FOR UNDERGRADS.

>>> AND A VARIETY OF SUMMER CAMPS OFFERED FOR KIDS WITH AUTISM.

THOSE STORIES AND MORE NEXT ON "ARIZONA HORIZON."

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TED: GOOD EVENING, AND WELCOME TO "ARIZONA HORIZON."

I'M TED SIMONS.

ARIZONA CONGRESSWOMAN YASSAMIN ANSARI IS BACK FROM EL SALVADOR AFTER SHE AND THREE OTHER HOUSE DEMOCRATS.

>> WE MADE THE REQUEST DIRECTLY THROUGH THE U.S. EMBASSY AND THE U.S.

AMBASSADOR IN EL SALVADOR, AND WE'RE UNFORTUNATELY REJECTED.

THAT'S WHY WE ESCALATED THE REQUEST DIRECTLY TO SECRETARY OF STATE MARCO RUBIO.

FOUR OF US WROTE A LETTER YESTERDAY SENT TO THE SECRETARY OF STATE WITH VERY CLEAR DEMANDS THAT INCLUDE THE REGULAR PROOF OF LIFE FOR MR. ABREGO GARCIA THAT INCLUDE ACCESS TO COUNSEL WHICH HE'S NOT BEEN ABLE TO GET THUS FAR AND FACILITATING HIS RETURN.

WE'RE ESCALATING THIS BECAUSE AS CONGRESSMAN GARCIA SAID, IT IS CLEAR THAT THIS ADMINISTRATION HAS NOT FOLLOWED THE SUPREME COURT AND NOT BEGUN THE PROCESS TO ASK FOR THE RELEASE OF MR. ABREGO GARCIA TO THE UNITED STATES, WHICH IS VERY CONCERNING.

WE LEARNED VERY CLEARLY THAT DONALD TRUMP IS FOLLOWING THE SAME AUTHORITARIAN PLAYBOOK BY TRYING TO CONSOLIDATE POWER BY DEFYING THE SUPREME COURT AND NOT FOLLOWING THE LAW.

TED: INDEED THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION SAID THAT, QUOTE, GARCIA IS NEVER COMING BACK TO THE U.S.

DESPITE A SUPREME COURT ORDER TO FACILITATE GARCIA'S RETURN.

>>> MARCO RUBIO'S PLAN INCLUDES ELIMINATING 132 DEMOCRAT OFFICES FOCUSED ON WAR CRIMES AND GLOBAL CONFLICT.

THE MOVE CUTS AROUND 700 POSITIONS IN WASHINGTON.

THE GOAL IS TO GET THE STATE DEPARTMENT, QUOTE, STRUCTURALLY IN LINE WITH WHAT THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION WANTS TO ACCOMPLISH.

>>> ON THIS EARTH DAY, THE ENVIRONMENTAL PROTECTION AGENCY BEGAN FIRING AND REASSIGNING HUNDREDS OF WORKERS.

THOSE AFFECTED ARE STAFF WORKERS AT THE OFFICE OF ENVIRONMENTAL JUSTICE AND EXTERNAL CIVIL RIGHTS.

THE EPA SAID THAT THE CUTS ARE IN LINE WITH PRESIDENT TRUMP'S ORDER TARGETING DIVERSITY, EQUITY AND INCLUSION.

>>> A FEDERAL JURY RULED AGAINST SARAH PALIN IN DEFAMATION SUIT AGAINST "THE NEW YORK TIMES."

INVOLVED EDITORIAL THAT WRONGLY SUGGESTED THAT PALIN INCITED THE 2011 MASS SHOOTING IN TUCSON THAT GRAVELY INJURED ARIZONA CONGRESSWOMAN GABBY GIFFORDS.

THE TIMES APOLOGIZED AND PALIN FILED A SUIT AND TODAY SHE LOST.

>>> PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS CITED A LITTLE USED EMERGENCY ACT AS JUSTIFICATION FOR SWEEPING TARIFFS IMPOSED ON DOZENS OF COUNTRIES.

THAT EMERGENCY ACT ALLOWS FOR TARIFFS WHEN THERE'S A THREAT TO NATIONAL SECURITY.

IS THE PRESIDENT'S INTERPRETATION OF THE EMERGENCY ACT LEGAL?

JOINING US IS ATTORNEY ROBERT McWHIRTER.

YOU ARE OUR GO-TO GUY.

WE GOT A BUNCH OF THEM, BUT YOU'RE ONE OF THEM.

FIRST OF ALL, IN GENERAL, IN TOTO, PRESIDENT TRUMP'S TARIFFS, ARE THEY LEGAL?

>> NO, NO.

TED: THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

THAT'S ALL WE GOT FOR YOU.

EXPLAIN, PLEASE.

>> OKAY, LOOK.

LET'S GO BACK TO THE OWNER'S MANUAL FOR THE COUNTRY, WHICH IS THE UNITED STATES CONSTITUTION, WHICH SAYS THAT ARTICLE 1 SECTION 8, POWERS OF CONGRESS, THE CONGRESS SHALL HAVE POWER TO LAY AND COLLECT TAXES, DUTY AND IMPOSE EXCISES.

THE CONGRESS, NOT THE PRESIDENT HAS THE POWER TO TAX AND IMPOSE TARIFFS.

NOW THEY DELEGATE THAT POWER IN CERTAIN ACTS LIKE THE INTERNATIONAL EMERGENCY IMPORTS ACT, BUT THIS IS WELL BEYOND ANYTHING THEY WANTED TO DELEGATE IN THAT ACT.

TED: TALK ABOUT THIS INTERNATIONAL EMERGENCY ECONOMIC POWERS ACT.

THE PRESIDENT SAYS THAT THIS GIVES HIM THE POWER TO MAKE MAJOR ECONOMIC DECISIONS IN TIMES OF EMERGENCY, AND WE FOR A TIME OF EMERGENCY.

>> BUT WE'RE NOT IN A TIME OF EMERGENCY.

THERE'S NO GREAT EMERGENCY.

THIS ISN'T THE START OF WORLD WAR II OR THE GREAT DEPRESSION.

WE'RE JUST NOT THERE.

HE WANTS TO SAY WE HAVE AN EMERGENCY BECAUSE THERE'S TRADE IMBALANCES.

TRADE IMBALANCES ARE NOT EMERGENCIES.

I HAVE A TRADE IMBALANCE WITH MY LOCAL SUPERMARKET, I BUY A LOT FROM THEM, BUT THEY BUY NOTHING FROM ME.

THAT'S NOT AN EMERGENCY, THAT'S BUSINESS, HE'S TRYING TO JUSTIFY IT, IT DOESN'T WORK.

TED: IN A LEGAL SENSE, WHAT DECIDES WHAT AN EMERGENCY IS?

>> WELL, USUALLY, IT CAN BE THE PRESIDENT, BUT HAS TO BE REVIEWED BY CONGRESS, AND THAT ACT WAS INTENDED TO BE LIMITATION ON THE POWER OF THE PRESIDENCY, NOT AN EXPANSION OF HIS POWERS.

NOW, OF COURSE, ULTIMATELY THIS WILL GO TO THE U.S. SUPREME COURT AS IT PERCOLATES THROUGH.

THIS IS WHERE YOU GET AN INTERESTING SPLIT THE WAY THE JUSTICES COME OUT ON THIS.

TED: TALK MORE ABOUT THAT, WHY WOULD THERE BE A SPLIT AT ALL?

>> WELL, THE JUSTICES THAT GENERALLY ARE IN FAVOR OF TRUMP, THE MOST CONSERVATIVE JUSTICES ARE ALSO THE JUSTICES WHO BELIEVE IN THE NONDELEGATION DOCTRINE, WHICH MEANS CONGRESS SHOULD NOT BE DELEGATING POWERS TO THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH AGENCIES.

SO THEY'RE THE ONES WHO IDEOLOGICALLY ARE TEXTUALISTS BECAUSE OF THE CLAUSE IN THE OWNER'S MANUAL, THE CONSTITUTION, THEY WOULD SAY THAT YOU SHOULDN'T DELEGATE THIS, THIS IS A CONGRESSIONAL POWER.

THESE ARE THE ONES WHO GENERALLY FAVOR DONALD TRUMP IN THEIR RULINGS, BUT GOING TO BE BUMPING UP AGAINST THEIR OWN DOCTRINE WHEN IT COMES TO THE NONDELEGATION DOCTRINE.

TED: WHEN THE ADMINISTRATION SAYS IF IT'S AN UNUSUAL AND EXTRAORDINARY THREAT TO THE U.S., THE PRESIDENT HAS THE EXECUTIVE POWERS TO INVESTIGATE, REGULATE OR PROHIBIT FOREIGN TRANSACTIONS.

YOU SAY, YEAH MAYBE, BUT CONGRESS HAS TO HAVE OVERSIGHT?

>> HAS TO HAVE OVERSIGHT.

IT IS A DELEGATIVE POWER AND CONGRESS MAY SAY THE DELEGATION CONGRESS GAVE UNDER THAT ACT WAS TOO FAR.

THAT'S WHAT THEY'VE DONE IN OTHER CASES.

LOOK, WHEN YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT AN EMERGENCY, YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SOMETHING LIKE AN ATTACK ON THIS COUNTRY.

LET'S SAY RUSSIA WAS TO ATTACK US AND YOU CREATE A TARIFF IN OPPOSITION TO A FOREIGN ADVERSARY LIKE NAZI GERMANY OR SOME OTHER COUNTRY.

ALTHOUGH THE ACT WAS IN EXISTENCE DURING WORLD WAR II.

THAT'S THE EMERGENCY WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, NOT JUST A TRADE IMBALANCE.

TED: IS THAT WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, OR COULD A TARIFF, IN A TIME OF STEEP TRADE IMBALANCE, CALL IT EMERGENCY, MAYBE NOT.

THERE STRAYED SITUATION GOING ON AGAINST THE UNITED STATES, DOES A TARIFF THEN QUALIFY AS SOMETHING FOR THE EXECUTIVE TO HAVE CONTROL OVER?

>> NO, A TARIFF IS SUPPOSED TO BE PASSED BY CONGRESS UNLESS THEY'VE GIVEN SPECIFIC DELEGATIVE AUTHORITY TO THE PRESIDENT AND THE SUPREME COURT MIGHT SAY THAT'S WRONG.

TED: AND IT DOESN'T MATTER THAT THE CONGRESS, IN THIS CASE, HAS NO -- REPUBLICANS ARE IN CONTROL HERE.

THEY HAVE NO INTEREST OR STOMACH TO GO AGAINST PRESIDENT TRUMP RIGHT NOW.

>> THE TROUBLE IS THEY'VE ADVOCATED THEIR ROLE UNDER THE CONSTITUTION, WHICH IS SUPPOSED TO BE A CHECK.

THE FRAMERS OF THE CONSTITUTION INTENDED THE BRANCHES TO BE CHECKS ON EACH OTHER, THE PARTIES AGAINST CONGRESS AREN'T GOING AGAINST THE PARTIES OF THE PRESIDENT.

TED: THE COURT WANTS INTERNATIONAL TRADE.

WHAT IS THAT?

>> THIS IS AN ADMINISTRATION THAT LIKES TO SHOP FOR THE BEST FORUMS AND HE THINKS IT'S MORE FAVORABLE TO HIM.

TED: WITH ALL OF THE SUITS WHERE, DOES STANDING COME IN?

>> THAT'S VERY INTERESTING BECAUSE OF THE PLAINTIFFS INCLUDING ONE OF THE NATIVE AMERICAN NATIONS, THE QUESTION IS WHO REALLY HAS THE RIGHT TO WAVE THEIR FLAG AND SAY I'M WRONGED HERE?

TED: YES.

>> THERE IS AN ARGUMENT THAT WOULD BE A STRONG ONE FOR THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION, THAT HEY, WAIT, THAT CONSTITUTIONAL PROVISION I WROTE IS FOR CONGRESS TO STEP UP AND NOT FOR INDIVIDUAL PLAINTIFF TO DO IT, AND THEREFORE ONLY CONGRESS CAN BE THE CHECK, NOT INDIVIDUAL PERSONS BRINGING THE CASE TO THE COURTS.

TED: INTERESTING.

YOU ARE SAYING CONGRESS HAS A VERY BIG ROLE TO PLAY IN ALL THIS, THEY'RE NOT PLAYING IT, BUT THEY HAVE IT.

>> THEY HAVE IT.

THAT'S WHAT THEY'RE SUPPOSED TO BE DOING.

TED: IF THEY DON'T DO IT, THOUGH, WHO ELSE HAS STANDING?

>> THAT WOULD BE THE MAIN QUESTION FROM THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION, AND WHAT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE RAISING THESE CASES ARE DOING ARE SAYING, I HAVE BEEN ECONOMICALLY HURT BY THE TARIFF, IN A WAY THAT IS UNFAIR AND UNCONSTITUTIONAL, AND THEREFORE I WISH TO GO TO THE COURT AND BE HEARD, AND THE COURT MAY OR MAY NOT HEAR THEIR CASE, THEY MAY GET KNOCKED OUT STANDING.

TED: WE HAD A SMALL BUSINESS OWNER LAST NIGHT, SHE WAS THE FIRST TO FILE AGAINST THE TARIFFS, SPECIFICALLY AGAINST THE TARIFFS AGAINST CHINA BECAUSE IT'S KILLING HER BUSINESS.

>> YEAH, SHE CAN COME IN AND I HAVE NO DOUBT IT'S KILLING HER BUSINESS, SHE MAY NOT HAVE STANDING UNDER THE CONSTITUTION.

THAT'S WHERE YOU GET IN THE WEEDS AND WE NEED A THREE-HOUR TALK ON THAT ONE.

TED: LET'S GET BACK TO THE SUPREME COURT.

IF THE SUPREME COURT RULES ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, OKAY, THAT'S A MAJOR RULING, ISN'T IT?

>> YES.

IT WILL ALSO BE IN THE CONTEXT.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU REMEMBER THE CHEVRON DOCTRINE OVERTURNED BY THE COURT, IT GIVES INTERESTING DIRECTION WHERE THE COURT WILL GO, IF THE TRUE -- THE VERY, VERY CONSERVATIVES WHO WANTED TO OVERTURN THE CHEVRON DOCTRINE ARE TRUE TO THE DOCTRINE, THEIR IDEOLOGY.

DONALD TRUMP WILL LOSE ON THIS ISSUE.

BUT IF THEY ARE NOT TRUE TO THAT, THEY'RE GOING TO TRY TO MAKE IT SO HE WINS ON THIS ISSUE, THAT COULD SHOW A REAL CRITICISM OF THE PARTICULAR JUSTICES.

>> BE A HANDICAPPER HERE, WHAT DO YOU THINK IS GOING TO HAPPEN?

>> I THINK THE PLAINTIFFS ARE SMART WITH THE ARGUMENTS.

IF THEY GET TO THE MERITS, THEN I THINK TRUMP WILL LOSE, BUT I THINK THERE'S A VERY GOOD CHANCE TRUMP WINS ON STANDING.

TED: LAST QUESTION HERE, ONLY GOT A MINUTE FOR THIS ONE SMALL QUESTION.

WHAT IF TRUMP LOSES AND SAYS WHO'S GOING TO STOP ME?

>> WELL, THAT IS EITHER A CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS OR CONTINUATION OF A CONSTITUTIONAL CRISIS AND WE HAVE TO HAVE MIDTERM ELECTIONS AND SEE WHAT HAPPENS WITH THAT.

GENERALLY WHEN PRESIDENTS DEFIED THE COURT, IT HASN'T GONE WELL FOR PRESIDENTS.

TED: IF IT DOES GO WELL AT THE BALLOT BOX, WHO'S GOING TO STOP HIM?

>> NOBODY.

TED: ALL RIGHT, ROBERT McWHIRTER, ATTORNEY, CONSTITUTIONAL EXPERT.

GOOD CONVERSATION AS ALWAYS.

>> THANK YOU.

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TED: A NEW ASU INTERNSHIP PROGRAM AT THE W.P.

CAREY SCHOOL OF BUSINESS IS DESIGNED TO BRIDGE THE GAP BETWEEN ACADEMIC LEARNING AND PROFESSIONAL EXPERIENCE.

WE WELCOME DEAN OHAD KADAN OF THE W.P.

CAREY SCHOOL OF BUSINESS AND MEGH PATRANABIS A STUDENT IN THE INTERNSHIP PROGRAM.

DID I GET IT RIGHT?

>> YOU DID.

TED: DEAN, HANDS-ON UNDERGRAD THING, TALK TO US ABOUT THIS.

>> WE HAVE A NEW INTERNSHIP PROGRAM CALLED THE CO-OP.

A CO-OP IS A MIDDLE GROUND BETWEEN A SHORT INTERNSHIP AND A FULL-TIME POSITION WHERE STUDENTS TAKE A POSE OF THEIR UNDERGRADUATE EDUCATION FOR A SEMESTER AND PURSUE THE POSITION WITH A COMPANY.

SO TRADITIONAL INTERNSHIPS ARE TWO MONTHS AND FULL-TIME POSITIONS ARE LONGER, CORPORATIONS ARE LOOKING FOR MORE MEANINGFUL EXPERIENCES, MEANINGFUL WAYS TO BASICALLY EXPERIENCE THE STUDENTS, LEARN ABOUT THE STUDENT AND SEE IF THEY WANT TO OFFER FULL-TIME POSITION.

TED: THE TRADITIONAL INTERNSHIP PROGRAM.

>> WHILE YOU ARE A STUDENT, YOU ARE PAUSING YOUR EDUCATION AND GOING TO WORK FOR A COMPANY FULL-TIME.

TED: SO YOU CAN FOCUS.

>> SO YOU CAN FOCUS AND THE EMPLOYER CAN LEARN TO KNOW AND YOU DECIDE WHETHER THEY WANT TO OFFER YOU A FULL-TIME POSITION.

TED: MEGH, TALK ABOUT YOUR EXPERIENCE WITH THIS?

>> FOR SURE.

IN MY CO-OP EXPERIENCE, I'VE BEEN WORKING WITH HONEYWELL AEROSPACE, A SIX MONTH EXPERIENCE, I STARTED IN JANUARY AND I'LL BE CONTINUING UNTIL JUNE.

I TOOK A PAUSE ON CLASSES AND STARTED WORKING FULL-TIME.

I'VE HAD WEEKS WHERE I WENT OVER FULL-TIME JUST TO GET A GOOD IDEA OF LIKE THE ENVIRONMENT AND WORK ON MY PROJECTS PROBABLY.

TED: ARE YOU GETTING A GOOD IDEA?

IS IT WORKING FOR YOU?

>>O, DEFINITELY.

I'VE DONE INTERNSHIPS BEFORE, THE MAIN DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A SUMMER INTERNSHIP AND THIS CO-OP PROGRAM IS THE LENGTH IS SIGNIFICANTLY DIFFERENT BUT ALSO WORKING FULL-TIME IS DEFINITELY A MASSIVE EDGE AGAINST SOME REGULAR INTERNSHIPS YOU MIGHT DO BECAUSE MOST OF MY INTERNSHIPS BEFOREHAND WERE KIND OF PART-TIME.

TED: WHEN YOU TAKE THIS PAUSE, DEAN, WHAT HAPPENS TO THE FOUR YEAR TRACK?

ARE YOU STILL ON THE FOUR YEAR TRACK?

>> SO IT DEPENDS.

MANY OF OUR STUDENTS ARE HIGH ACHIEVERS.

THEY COME WITH MORE CREDITS THAN ACTUALLY THEY NEED.

THEY CAN STILL FINISH IN FOUR YEARS, SOME CAN TAKE A COURSE OR TWO WHILE WORKING OR TAKE A COURSE ONLINE, BUT SOME NEED TO DELAY THEIR GRADUATION.

WE ARE FLEXIBLE BY THAT.

WE ARE SAYING TO STUDENTS, YOU TAKE THE CO-OP, YOU ARE INCREASING CHANCES OF LANDING A HIGH-QUALITY JOB, BUT THERE IS A PAUSE IN YOUR EDUCATION.

TED: I IMAGINE DELAYING THE EDUCATION IS FINE, IF BY THE END OF THE INTERNSHIP, YOU GOT YOURSELF A JOB.

>> YES.

TED: IS THAT WHAT YOU'RE HOPING IS HAPPENING?

>> HOPEFULLY THAT HAPPENS.

IF A RETURN IS NOT GUARANTEED, GIVEN THE SIX MONTH EXPERIENCE IS WELL WORTH IT WITH THAT IN MIND.

TED: OTHER CLASSMATES, OTHER PEOPLE YOU KNOW, ARE THEY TAKING ADVANTAGE OF THIS OPPORTUNITY?

>> I KNOW THREE OTHER PEOPLE IN MY COHORT FOR THE PILOT PROGRAM, SO ALL FOUR OF US, WE'VE GOTTEN TO KNOW EACH OTHER VERY WELL, AND IT'S A GREAT EXPERIENCE IN THE FACT THAT WE MET NEW PEOPLE WHO HAVE DONE A LOT MORE THAN ANY OF US INITIALLY THOUGHT WE WOULD, IT'S BEEN PRETTY AWESOME, YEAH.

>> THIS WAS A PILOT, THIS YEAR, AND WE ARE LAUNCHING IT FORMALLY STARTING THIS SUMMER, THIS JULY WITH 20 NEW POSITIONS IN MAJOR CORPORATIONS.

TED: WHICH CORPORATIONS?

>> SOME EXAMPLES ARE HONEYWELL, INTEL, GORE AND OTHERS, SO DEFINITELY SOME MAJOR ONES ARE PARTICIPATING.

SOME SMALLER ONES, HERE IN THE VALLEY AND DIFFERENT PLACES.

TED: HONEYWELL AEROSPACE, DID THEY SAY WE'RE LOOKING FOR SOMEONE, DID YOU SAY I'M LOOKING FOR SOMETHING, HOW DID THAT HAPPEN?

>> I GOT SOMETHING ON MY E-MAIL ACCOUNT AND READ THE OPPORTUNITY, I SAW THIS WAS THE PILOT CO-OP PROGRAM.

I'VE NEVER DONE A CO-OP BEFORE, I DECIDED TO GIVE IT A TRY, I THOUGHT IT WOULD BE BENEFICIAL FOR MY CAREER.

>> THIS IDEA CAME FROM ONE OF OUR ALUMNI WHO WORKED FOR GOLDMAN SACHS FOR YEARS, HE SAID GOLDMAN IS HIRING THROUGH CO-OPS.

WE DEFINITELY ADOPTED IT AND LAUNCHED IT THIS YEAR.

IT SEEMS TO BE WORKING REALLY WELL, THIS IS A LIVING EXAMPLE OF HOW WELL OUR STUDENTS CAN BE DOING THROUGH THIS EXPERIENCE AND WITH THE BENEFIT, BOTH TO THE STUDENT AND THE EMPLOYERS.

TED: RIGHT, AND LAST QUESTION, I RAN OUT OF TIME, THIS IS FASCINATING.

IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN -- I DON'T KNOW, ACCOUNTING, AND THE ONLY THING HONEYWELL AEROSPACE IS SOMETHING THAT'S NOT ACCOUNTING, WHAT HAPPENS?

>> WELL, I THINK THAT'S PRETTY INTERESTING.

SO I WORK SPECIFICALLY IN SUPPLY CHAIN, ALSO IN THE I.T.

DEPARTMENT, SO A LOT OF MY PROGRAM COMES IN THE CROSS-SECTION OF THE TWO.

THE CO-OP, YOU GET TO KNOW YOUR MANAGER, THE PEOPLE AROUND YOU, THERE IS ROOM FOR OPPORTUNITIES LIKE THAT.

TED: GET THE LAY OF THE LAND.

CONGRATULATIONS, MEGH, AND GOOD LUCK IN THE FUTURE.

I THINK I KNOW WHERE YOU ARE GOING TO LAND A JOB.

DEAN, CONGRATULATIONS ON THIS AS WELL.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

>> THANK YOU.

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TED: SUMMER IS ALMOST HERE AND THE SOUTHWEST AUTISM RESEARCH AND RESOURCE CENTER OR SARCC IS OFFERING A NUMBER OF OPPORTUNITIES FOR PEOPLE WITH AUTISM TO ENJOY A SAFE AND INCLUSIVE CAMP EXPERIENCE.

WE SPOKE WITH THE PRESIDENT AND CEO OF SARCC ABOUT THE OPPORTUNITIES.

GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US, GOOD TO HAVE YOU HERE.

BEFORE WE GET TO THE SUMMER CAMPS AND OPPORTUNITIES AND THINGS GOING ON, WHAT IS SARCC?

>> SARCC IS THE SOUTHWEST AUTISM RESEARCH AND RESOURCE CENTER, WE'RE A NONPROFIT ORGANIZATION FOUNDED IN 199 AND 7A BIG VISION WHAT WE WANT THE WORLD TO LOOK LIKE, PEOPLE WITH AUTISM MEANINGFULLY INTEGRATED INTO INCLUSIVE COMMUNITIES.

TED: THAT INCLUDES WHAT SUMMER CAMPS SHOULD LOOK LIKE?

>> IT'S AN IMPORTANT TIME OF YEAR, STRESSFUL TIME FOR FAMILIES, KIDS WITH AUTISM.

SCHOOL IS OUT, WHERE DO I GO?

WHILE THERE ARE CAMPS FOR KIDS WITH AUTISM, WE TAKE A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT APPROACH.

TED: A TRADITIONAL APPROACH IS TAKE SUMMER CAMPS AND COME RIGHT IN?

>> THERE ARE OTHER CAMPS OUT THERE.

WE LIVE IN A PHENOMENAL COMMUNITY WITH LOTS OF GREAT OPTIONS, LITTLE LEAGUES OR SUMMER CAMPS OR JOBS, OUR BELIEF IS THAT WE CAN WORK WITH THE EXISTING COMMUNITY PARTNERS TO INTEGRATE PEOPLE WITH AUTISM AND EXIST INTO COMMUNITY PROGRAMS.

>> TALK ABOUT THE CAMPS, THERE'S A BUNCH OF THEM, I DON'T KNOW IF WE CAN GET THROUGH ALL OF THEM.

CAMP BE KIND.

WHAT ARE WE TALKING ABOUT HERE?

>> YES, THIS IS CAME THAT'S PUT ON BY THE BE KIND PEOPLE PROJECT, ANOTHER NONPROFIT IN TOWN, AND THEY'VE GOT A WHOLE BE KIND CURRICULUM, THEY'RE WORKING WITH LOTS OF KIDS IN THE COMMUNITY, AND OUR JOB IS TO PARTNER WITH THEM TO INTEGRATE OUR KIDS INTO SUMMER CAMP AS WELL.

TED: AND THE ACTIVITIES INVOLVED WOULD BE TRADITIONAL SUMMER CAMP STUFF?

>> THEY DO PERFORMANCE-TYPE STUFF, SONGS AND DANCES AND STUFF LIKE THAT AS WELL, AND OUR JOB IS TO GET OUR KIDS INCLUDED IN THAT.

>> THAT REMINDS ME, THE PHOENIX THEATER CAMP HAS A CAMP FOR PEOPLE AGES 4 TO 20, AND MAKING ART ACCESSIBLE.

>> THAT'S RIGHT.

THIS IS ONE OF OUR LONGEST PARTNERSHIPS.

THE PHOENIX THEATER DOES A GREAT CAMP WHERE KIDS COME IN AND BY THE END OF THE WEEK, THEY'RE PUTTING ON A FULL PLAY FOR PARENTS AND EVERYTHING IN BETWEEN.

AND OUR JOB, WE PROVIDE THE TRAINING FOR THE COUNCILORS, THE DIRECTORS, FOR THE OTHER SUMMER CAMPERS, BUT WE STAND AWAY AND THEY TAKE OVER FROM THERE, AND PHOENIX THEATER HAS GOTTEN SO GOOD AT THIS, THEY ADVERTISE THEIR CAMP NOT JUST FOR TYPICAL KIDS BUT KIDS WITH AUTISM AS WELL, THEY HAVE THE TRAINING TO MAKE THIS INCLUSIVE FOR EVERYONE.

TED: YOU MENTIONED TRAINING AND FOR ALL OF THE CAMPS, THERE HAS TO BE UNDERSTANDING HOW TO DEAL WITH CERTAIN KINDS OF KIDS, HUH?

>> WE USED TO SEND STAFF TO THE SUMMER CAMPS TO SUPPORT KIDS IN THE CAMPS.

WE FLIPPED THAT ON ITS HEAD NOW.

WE PROVIDE THE TRAINING FOR THE EXISTING STAFF THAT ARE THERE SO THEY KNOW SOMETHING ABOUT AUTISM.

THEY'VE GOT GOOD STRATEGIES FOR DEALING WITH CHALLENGING BEHAVIORS.

THEY KNOW WHAT TO LOOK FOR IN TERMS OF ENGAGING KIDS WITH AUTISM WITH TYPICALLY DEVELOPING KIDS, AND PHOENIX THEATER DOES AN EXCEPTIONAL JOB AT THIS.

WE PROVIDE CONSULTATION AT THIS POINT.

TED: CHILDREN'S MUSEUM OF PHOENIX.

I'M NOT SURE I'M AWARE OF THAT?

>> ANOTHER GREAT NONPROFIT IN OUR COMMUNITY IS THE CHILDREN'S MUSEUM OF PHOENIX, AND IN THE SUMMERTIME, THEY PROVIDE THEIR OWN CAMPS.

THEY USE EXISTING FACILITY TO DO SUMMER CAMPS AND DO THAT FOR KIDS IN THE COMMUNITY.

OUR JOB IS TO SAY, HEY, IF YOUR KID DIDN'T HAVE AUTISM, WOULD YOU BE INTERESTED IN GOING TO THE CHILDREN'S MUSEUM OF SUMMER CAMP?

PEOPLE SAY WE LOVE THE CHILDREN'S MUSEUM, LOVE TO GO TO SUMMER CAMP THERE.

WE'RE MAKING IT POSSIBLE TO GET OUR KIDS WITH AUTISM INTEGRATED INTO THE CAMPS, WORKING WITH STAFF AND PROVIDING CONSULTATION FOR THE KIDS WITH AUTISM THAT GO THERE.

TED: IS IT RELATIVELY EASY TO MAKE THIS POSSIBLE?

ARE THE PARTNERS READY TO GO AND WILLING TO EMBRACE?

>> I THINK SO.

YOU GOT TO FIND THE LIKE-MINDED PARTNERS WHO ARE OPEN TO INCLUSION OR HAVING KIDS DIFFERENT THAN THEM.

WHEN WE LOOKED AT COMMUNITY, THE ISSUE IS NOT WHETHER PEOPLE ARE WILLING.

THEY WANT TO BE PROPERLY PREPARED.

THAT'S WHERE WE COME IN.

IF YOU'RE OPEN AND WILLING, WE'LL WORK WITH YOU TO BE SUCCESSFUL IN INTEGRATING THE KIDS INTO THE CAMP.

YOU WANT EVERYONE INVOLVED.

CAMP INNOVATION, HANDS-ON ACTIVITIES AT THE SCIENCE CENTER.

>> ANOTHER GOOD ONE.

WE HAVE A RESEARCH GRANT WORKING WITH KIDS ACCESSING S.T.E.M.

EDUCATION AND LEARNING THROUGH SCIENCE CENTER.

THIS IS A CONTINUATION OF THAT.

ARIZONA SCIENCE CENTER PUTS ON CAMP INNOVATION FOR KIDS PRONE OR INTERESTED IN SCIENCE.

KIDS WITH AUTISM THRIVE IN THE ENVIRONMENTS AS WELL, BUT IF WE DIDN'T HAVE THE RIGHT SUPPORT, THEY WOULDN'T BE AS SUCCESSFUL GOING TO THE CAMPS.

TED: ARE THEY FULL DAY CAMPS, HALF DAY CAMPS?

ANY OF THEM ARE STAY OVERNIGHT CAMPS?

>> MOST ARE HALF DAY AND FULL DAY CAMPS.

CAMP STEIN IS A SLEEPAWAY CAMP IN PRESCOTT, WE STARTED THAT CLOSE TO TEN YEARS AGO, WHERE WE WERE THINKING, IF WE'RE GOING TO DO THIS WELL, WE GOT TO MAKE IT POSSIBLE FOR KIDS WITH AUTISM TO GO TO SLEEPAWAY CAMP.

CAMP STEIN IS ALSO A JEWISH SLEEPAWAY CAMP, THEY'LL ACCEPT KIDS WHETHER THEY ARE JEWISH OR NOT, WE'RE PROVIDING THE SUPPORT FOR THEM TO BE SUCCESSFUL.

WE'RE FINDING LOTS OF SUCCESS, AND THE GREAT THING IS KIDS WITH AUTISM GET TO HAVE THE SAME GREAT OVERNIGHT CAMP EXPERIENCE THAT ANY OTHER KID COULD TAKE ADVANTAGE OF.

TED: SOUNDS FANTASTIC.

WHERE CAN PEOPLE FIND OUT MORE ABOUT THIS?

>> GO TO OUR WEBSITE, AUTISM CENTER.ORG, THERE IS LOTS OF INFORMATION, ESPECIALLY AS WE GET READY FOR THE SUMMER CAMPS TO KICK OFF.

TED: DANNY OPENDEN, GREAT WORK, ALWAYS A PLEASURE TO HAVE YOU HERE.

HAVE A GREAT SUMMER.

>> THANK YOU.

WE'LL BE OUT THERE AT CAMP.

TED: A PROGRAMMING NOTE, TOMORROW ON "ARIZONA HORIZON," U.S.

SENATORS MARK KELLY AND RUBEN GALLEGO BOTH WILL BE HERE IN STUDIO.

TWO U.S.

SENATORS, TWO INTERVIEWS, RIGHT HERE ON "ARIZONA HORIZON," AND YOU'RE INVITED TO JOIN US.

THAT'S IT FOR NOW.

I'M TED SIMONS.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US TONIGHT.

YOU HAVE A GREAT EVENING.