ON THIS EPISODE OF "CYCLE OF HEALTH," MUSIC AND YOUR MIND.

THEY SAY MUSIC IS THE UNIVERSAL LANGUAGE AND ITS ABILITY TO HEAL CAN HAVE A GREAT IMPACT ON OUR LIVES.

WARM UP THOSE VOCAL CHORDS AS WE VISIT A SINGING GROUP IMPROVING THE LIVES OF THOSE WITH DEMENTIA.

THEN JOIN THE CONVERSATION AS OUR GUESTS DISCUSS THE BENEFITS OF MUSIC THERAPY.

WE EVEN TRY OUT SOME RHYTHMS OURSELVES, COMING UP ON "CYCLE OF HEALTH."

HELLO!

WELCOME TO CYCLE OF HEALTH, I'M DOCTOR RICH O'NEILL.

TONIGHT'S TOPIC, MUSIC AND YOUR MIND.

SOMETIMES WHEN WE LISTEN TO MUSIC IT TRANSPORTS US TO A DIFFERENT HEAD SPACE.

LIKE HOW WHEN WE HEAR A SONG AND BOOM BOOM BOOM OUR MIND IS DANCING TO A WONDERFUL MEMORY FROM OUR PAST.

MUSIC THERAPY CAN SHIFT OUR FEELINGS AND ENHANCE THE WAY WE PROCESS THE SOMETIMES "STORMY WEATHER" OF OUR EMOTIONS.

AND IT'S NOT ONLY GREAT FOR OUR MENTAL BUT ALSO OUR PHYSICAL, AS WE'LL DEMONSTRATE HERE TONIGHT.

BUT BEFORE WE GET TOO FAR AHEAD OF OURSELVES, LET'S MEET OUR FOUR MUSICALLY INCLINED PROFESSIONALS WHO OFFER THEIR EXPERTISE ON THE HEALING EFFECTS OF MUSIC.

THEY ARE: KATH FATHERS: BOARD CERTIFIED MUSIC THERAPIST, LICENSED CREATIVE ARTS THERAPIST, AND CO-FOUNDER/DIRECTOR OF CNY MUSIC THERAPY AMANDA MAESTRO-SCHERER: BOARD CERTIFIED MUSIC THERAPIST AND FOUNDER OF MAESTRO MUSIC THERAPY GAIL HEALY: BOARD CERTIFIED MUSIC THERAPIST AND FOUNDER OF DRUM SONG: FACILITATED DRUMMING AND SAMITE MULONDO: EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR MUSICIANS FOR WORLD HARMONY THANK YOU ALL FOR BEING HERE.

LET'S JUST START OFF WITH WHAT IS MUSIC THERAPY AND WHAT IS THE TRAINING INVOLVED IN MUSIC THERAPY?

>> SO MUSIC THERAPY IS A CLINICAL AND EVIDENCE-BASED HEALTHCARE PROFESSION IN WHICH WE USE MUSIC TO ADDRESS THE DIFFERENT HEALTHCARE NEEDS OF THE CLIENTS THAT WE WORK WITH.

SO MUSIC THERAPISTS HAVE AT LEAST A BACHELOR'S DEGREE IN MUSIC THERAPY, MOST MUSIC THERAPISTS IN NEW YORK STATE HAVE MASTERS DEGREES OR HIGHER AND WE HAVE OVER 1040 CLINICAL HOURS WITHIN OUR TRAINING WITHIN DIFFERENT CLINICAL POPULATIONS THAT WE SERVE.

>> WHAT ARE THE AGE RANGES YOU SERVE.

>> WE SERVE THROUGHOUT THE LIFESPAN PRODUCE BIRTH TO DEATH.

>> END OF LIFE CARE?

DOES IT INVOLVE... >> ABSOLUTELY.

MUSIC THERAPY CAN BE SO POWERFUL AT END OF LIFE CARE, ADDRESSING THE NEEDS OF SOMEBODY WHO IS DYING TO HELP SAY THEIR GOODBYES, SING THEIR GOODBYES TO THEIR LOVED ONES.

THAT MAY LOOK LIKE CREATING A SONG.

IN ORDER TO DO THAT, IT MIGHT LOOK LIKE PLAYING MUSIC AT BED SIDE TO HELP DECREASE AGITATION DECREASE ANXIETY WITH THE FAMILY AS WELL.

AND.

>> AND THE OTHER EXTREME, THE OTHER END OF LIFE, OR START OF LIFE PERRY NATAL MUSIC THERAPY SUPPORTS THE MUSIC THE MOTHER, THE INFANT AND RIGHT THE WAY THROUGH THE LIFESPAN SO WORKING IN SCHOOLS WITH CHILDREN WITH CHALLENGES, COMMUNICATION NEEDS DEVELOPMENTAL DELAY, AUTISM, MUSIC THERAPY IS A RELATED SERVICE AND SO THE PEOPLE THE PEOPLE THAT CAN BENEFIT FROM MUSIC THERAPY TO SUM IT UP WOULD BE THOSE WITH COMMUNICATION CHALLENGES, THOSE WITH HEALTH CHALLENGES AND THOSE WITH TRAUMA CHALLENGES.

>> WHAT KIND OF EFFECTS DOES MUSIC THERAPY HAVE ON A PERSON.

>> WE HAVE THE ABILITY TO HAVE RHYTHM.

IF YOU HAVE A HEART BEAT WE HAVE RHYTHM, OUR BREATH IS RHYTHM.

THERE IS RHYTHM AROUND US ALL THE TIME.

WE CAN VOCAL SIZE AND MAKE-- VOCALIZE AND MAKE SOUNDS AND THAT IS ALL MUSIC AND THEREFORE IT IS A GREAT MEANS TO USE THAT AS A CARRIER TO THE BRAIN FOR OTHER INFORMATION TO WORK ON OTHER SKILLS.

>> SO THERE IS NOT ONLY, LIKE MEDICAL THINGS THAT ARE GETTING ADDRESSED, BUT AND WE ALL KNOW HOW MUSIC AFFECTS EVERY ONE OF US.

>> SPEAKING OF SOCIAL EFFECTS I KNOW YOU ARE NOT A MUSIC THERAPIST PER SE BUT YOU USE MUSIC TO HELP HEAL COMMUNITIES.

TELL US HOW YOU GOT STARTED WITH THAT.

WELL SOME POINT.

SOMEBODY INVITED ME TO GO BACK TO AFRICA TO SCHAFFER THE HEALING POWER OF MUSIC BUT I DIDN'T KNOW EXACTLY WHAT IT MEANT.

AND WE ENDED UP IN IN A DISPLACED CAMP IN LIBERIA WHERE THE CHILDREN HAD SEEN SO MUCH SUFFERING, SO MUCH DEATH AROUND THEM, THAT THEY WERE LETTING FLIES GO IN AND AROUND THEIR EYES WITHOUT BLINKING.

AND I TOOK THIS WITH FLUTE WITH ME AND I PLAYED A SIMPLE THING ...

WHEN I WAS DONE PLAYING THE FLUTE, THE CHILDREN'S EYES WERE FOCUSING ALL OF A SUDDEN AND THEY WERE PULLING ON MY SHIRT, HEY, MISTER, CAN I SING YOU A SONG?

CAN I SHARE MY SONG?

AND SOON THE MOTHERS AND THE FATHERS JOINED IN, SIJING THEIR OWN-- SINGING THEIR OWN MUSIC.

>> SO YOU REALLY CONNECTED WITH THE PEOPLE AND THEY RESPONDED AND I KNOW, KATH, YOU DO SOMETHING CALLED SINGING SOLUTIONS, SOULUTIONS.

>> WE HAVE ESTABLISHED A FEW SINGING SOULUTIONS GROUPS.

A PROGRAM WITH SMALL GROUPS OF PEOPLE WITH VARIOUS HEALTH CHALLENGES TO COME AND SING TOGETHER FOR OUR HEALTH.

SO THE ONE THAT WILL YOU SEE IN THE VIDEO IS SINGING SOLUTIONS FOR DEMENTIA CARE AND THAT IS FOR PEOPLE WITH DEMENTIA ALONG WITH THEIR CAREERS, FOR THAT CONNECTION, SOCIAL, EMOTIONAL CONNECTION BUT ALSO MEMORY WE KNOW IS WIDELY EVIDENCED THAT MUSIC CAN HELP TO REACTIVATE MEMORY.

SO WE WORK WITH THAT.

ANOTHER TWO EXAMPLES OF SINGING SOLUTION STRATEGIES WE HAVE IN GROUPS FOR PAIN MANAGEMENT.

SO FOR PEOPLE WITH CHRONIC PAIN, A PHYSICAL THERAPIST COMES TO JOIN US.

AND THEY TALK ABOUT THE CYCLE OF PAIN AND HOW WE CAN GET STUCK WITHIN THAT AND ANXIETY AND PAIN BECOMES MORE INCREASED.

>> SO THE MUSIC THERAPY DISRUPTS THAT.

>> EXACTLY.

BRINGING THE SINGING, LOOSENING OUR BREATH, DEEPENING OUR BREATH CAN HELP TO BREAK THE CYCLE.

AND ONE OTHER EXAMPLE IS SICKING-- IS SINGING FOR LUNG HEALTH.

PEOPLE WITH CHRONIC LUNG CONDITIONS, C.O.P.D., ACUTE ASTHMA, SINGING IS AN AMAZING WAY OF RELEASING AND LENGTHENING YOUR OUT BREATH WHICH IS A PERFECT LUNG BREATHING PATTERN SO IT HELPS US NATURALLY TO ESTABLISH NEW KIND OF BREATHING PATTERNS.

WE USE IT AS EXERCISES.

THEY TAKE AWAY THROUGH THE WEEK AND YOU KNOW, THERE IS GROWING EVIDENCE AND RESEARCH BEHIND SOME OF THE GROUPS OF THE HEALTH BENEFITS AND ALSO BECAUSE THEY'RE CHRONIC CONDITIONS FOR PEOPLE, THOSE THINGS ARE SO ISOLATING.

SO YOU OFTEN END UP WITH YOUR LIFE GETTING LIMITED AND IT THEN ALSO GIVES THAT SOCIAL CONNECTION BACK AGAIN AND WHAT THE WHOLE SENSE OF WELL-BEING BECAUSE YOU ARE WITH OTHER PEOPLE AND SHARING TOGETHER.

>> WELL OUR WCNY CREW WAS LUCKY ENOUGH TO JOIN KATH DURING HER MUSIC THERAPY GROUP SINGING SOULUTIONS FOR DEMENTIA CARE."

EXPERIENCING COGNITIVE IMPAIRMENT DUE TO ALZHEIMER'S DISEASE REACTIVATE MEMORIES, ENCOURAGE SOCIALIZATION, AND HAVE A LITTLE FUN ALONG THE WAY.

LET'S TAKE A LOOK.

♪ DARK AND TROUBLED, BY AND BY... ♪ THERE IS A BRIGHT AND SUNNY SIDE, TOO.

THOUGH WE MEET WITH THE DARKNESS... >> OVER THE NEXT HOUR, YOU WILL SEE US WARMING UP OUR BODIES, DEEPENING OUR BREATHS, AND USING OUR VOICES TO ENCOURAGE US TO CONNECT WITH OUR OWN SENSE OF SELF AND OUR BODIES TO CONNECT WITH ONE ANOTHER.

YOU WILL SEE MUSIC MAYBE ACTIVATING PEOPLE.

♪ HELPS US EVERY DAY, IT WILL LIGHTEN ALL THE WAY ♪ ♪ IF WE KEEP ON THE SUNNY SIDE OF LIFE ♪ >> WITH DEMENTIA, THERE IS VERY OFTEN A SENSE OF ANXIETY IN THE WORLD CLOSING IN FOR PEOPLE.

SO SINGING INVITES US TO CONNECT WITH SOME OLD MEMORIES AND TO BRING THOSE SONGS FORWARD.

IT CONNECTS US TO BE IN THE PRESENT MOMENT, WHICH IS SUCH A VITAL THING THAT CAN BE LOST.

I'M KATH.

I'M A MUSIC THERAPIST FROM WCNY MUSIC THERAPY AND I AM THE LEADER OF THIS SINGING SOULUTIONS GROUP FOR DEMENTIA CARE.

SO HERE TODAY THERE WILL BE A PERSON WITH DEMENTIA ALONG WITH THEIR CAREER COMING AND THE INVITATION IS TO COME FOR A SERIES OF EIGHT SESSIONS AND BETWEEN ALL OF THE SESSIONS, YOU WILL TRY A MUSIC STRATEGY.

AND YOU WILL BUILD A PLAY LIST OF SOME OF YOUR FAVORITE MUSIC THAT YOU KIND OF REFIND FROM THE PAST, TO HELP CONNECT YOU WITH YOURSELF AND WITH THE PERSON WHO IS CARING FOR YOU.

AND THEN A WAY OF CONNECTING ALL TOGETHER IN THE GROUP.

>> 1, 2, 3, 4.

LET'S GO.

1, 2, 3, 4.

AND THE OTHER FOOT.

1, 2, 3, 4.

GREAT.

OOH, LET'S DO A HIGH ONE.

OOH.

♪ DOING FINE.

♪ I'M DOING FINE ♪ >> BEAUTIFUL.

MUSIC IS AN INVITATION TO SAFETY.

IT HOLDS PEOPLE IN SAFETY.

IF THERE IS A SONG THAT I RECOGNIZE WHEN I'M NOT RECOGNIZING ANYTHING, A SONG CAN HOLD ME INTO THAT SENSE OF IT'S OKAY HERE.

THE NEXT ONE IS A SHOW TUNE FROM THE SOUND OF MUSIC.

I DON'T KNOW IF YOU CALL THAT A SHOW TUNE.

BUT IT'S EIDLEWEISS.

IT IS NICE TO HAVE A MORE CALMING SONG THAT WE CAN JUST SING ALONG TO, JUST AS A PERSON WITH DEMENTIA CAN BE INCREDIBLY ISOLATED, IT CAN HAVE THE SAME EFFECT FOR THE CAREERS.

I'M NOT GOING TO GIVE ANY DIRECTIONS FOR OUR BODIES.

BUT YOU MIGHT WANT TO SWAY, WHATEVER YOU WANT TO DO.

EDELWEISS ♪ >> THIS BRINGS US TO A SPACE THAT WE ARE SHARING IN A WIDER SENSE OF COMMUNITY.

WE ARE OFFERING THE STRATEGIES FOR WHAT TO DO BACK AT HOME.

SO HOW CAN MUSIC BE USED TO CONNECT BACK WITH THE PERSON THAT THEY'RE LIVING WITH AND CARING FOR.

>> WE DID SOME SINGING.

AND WE DID SOME ACTIVITIES AND WE DID A LOT OF DEEP BREATHEING AND EMOTIONS.

>> MAKES US FEEL GOOD AGAIN.

YOUNG AGAIN.

WOW.

IN THE TIME THAT YOU TAKE.

>> I'M ADDICTED TO SINGING AND SINGING TOGETHER.

SO I HOPE THAT WE CAN START REALLY SPREADING SOME OF THIS INITIATIVE AND SEE WHAT GOOD IT CAN DO FOR ALL OF US.

♪ BLESS MY HOMELAND FOREVER ♪ YES!

>> WILL YOU BE COMING BACK?

>> YES.

>> DEFINITELY.

WE HAD A GOOD TIME AND YOU PEOPLE ALL CARE ABOUT US.

♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ DOODLEY DO,... ♪ >> LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING ALL OF YOU AGAIN NEXT WEEK.

THANK YOU SO MUCH.

♪ WHAT A GLORIOUS FEELING ♪ >> WELL, BESIDE PLAYING MUSIC, WHAT OTHER THINGS DOES A MUSIC THERAPIST DO DURING A SESSION?

>> SO, BECAUSE MUSIC THERAPY IS GOAL ORIENTED, AS THERAPIST, WE ARE MEETING WITH THE CLIENTS AND ASSESSING THEM TO DETERMINE WHAT GOALS WE SHOULD BE ADDRESSING WITH THEM.

SO SOMETIMES IT COULD BE A LOT OF, YOU KNOW, MORE COUNSELING KINDS OF THINGS HAPPENING.

WE MIGHT REALLY TALK A LOT ABOUT THE MUSIC THAT'S MEANINGFUL TO THEM, TALK ABOUT WHY IT'S MEANINGFUL TO THEM.

WE MIGHT LOOK AT THE LYRICS AND DO SOME KIND OF ANALYSIS OF LYRICS.

A LOT OF TIMES THERAPISTS ARE PLAYING LIVE MUSIC WITH OUR CLIENTS, BUT USING RECEPTIVE MUSIC TECHNIQUES AS WELL.

LISTENING TO MUSIC ARE THINGS WE WILL BRING IN.

>> AND I KNOW GAIL, YOU DO FACILITATED DRUMMING.

TELL US ABOUT THAT.

>> FACILITATED DRUMMING WE USE THE BRITH I AM TO ORGANIZE THE BRAIN AND THEN HELP THE BRAIN CONNECT WITH THE BODY AND THEN FROM THERE, WE CAN WORK ON LOTS OF DIFFERENT SKILLS AND IT'S GREAT FOR PEOPLE TO GET MORE IN TOUCH WITH THEMSELVES AND GET THEIR WHOLE BODY WORKING TOGETHER AND TO GET IN TOUCH WITH OTHER PEOPLE THAT ARE IN THE GROUP AND THEIR ENVIRONMENT AROUND THEM.

>> SO I JUST HAPPEN TO HAVE MY OWN DRUM HERE THAT YOU VERY NICELY BROUGHT ME AND EVERYBODY ELSE.

SO YOU ARE GOING TO LEAD US THROUGH A FACILITATED DRUMMING EXERCISE I UNDERSTAND.

>> ABSOLUTELY.

>> OKAY.

OFF WE GO.

>> SO OUR VIEWERS AT HOME, WE WILL INVITE YOU TO JOIN US AS WELL.

YOU CAN USE A PILLOW OR A BOOK OR YOU CAN JUST TAP ON YOUR LEGS.

>> YOUR HEAD.

>> OR YOUR HEAD.

WELL, YES.

>> BONG OWE.

BONGO.

>> VERY GENT MANY.

WE ARE GOING TO START WITH OUR RIGHT HAND.

THIS IS OUR PULSE.

ACTIVATING THE LEFT SIDE OF YOUR BRAIN.

GET YOUR LEFT HAND READY AND SWITCH.

NOW WE ARE ACTIVATING THE RIGHT SIDE OF OUR BRAIN.

GET YOUR RIGHT HAND READY AGAIN AND WE ARE GOING TO ALTERNATE.

>> IT'S GETTING HARD NOW.

>> ADD A LITTLE TWIST.

YOU ARE GOING TO REACH OVER OPPOSITE SIDE OF YOUR DRUM, CROSSING MID LINE, WHICH ENCOURAGES MOVEMENT BETWEEN THE TWO HEMISPHERES OF YOUR BRAIN.

COME BACK TO MID LINE AND WE ARE GOING TO JOIN TOGETHER IN A RHYTHM USING WORD RHYTHM.

AND HELLO Dr. O'NEILL.

HELLO, Dr. O'NEILL.

YOU GOT IT.

THERE'S OUR RHYTHM.

ONE MORE TIME.

NOW NOTICE, CAN YOU STILL HEAR THAT RHYTHM AND THAT PULSE THAT WE WERE JUST DOING?

DO, DO, DO, DO, DO.

>> THAT'S CALLED ENTRAIN MANY.

ENTRAINMENT.

>> THAT'S WHEN OUR BRAIN CONNECTS WITH AN EXTERNAL RHYTHM AND WHEN THAT HAPPENS, THE MUSIC AND THE RHYTHM BECOME CARRIERS FOR OTHER INFORMATION THAT WE MIGHT BE LOOKING TO LEARN.

SO PERHAPS WE WOULD USE THAT PULSE THEN TO HELP PEOPLE REGAIN SPEECH AND LANGUAGE SKILLS, TO REGAIN MOTOR SKILLS, BECAUSE SO MUCH OF OUR MOTOR ORGANIZATION ALL COMES FROM RHYTHM AND PULSES AS WELL.

AND ALSO TO HELP PEOPLE REGAIN SOCIAL AND EMOTIONAL AND THAT EMOTIONAL FREEDOM THAT WE ARE ALL LOOKING FOR.

>> BUM, BUM, BUM, BUM, BUM, BUM.

>> YOU GOT IT.

>> I KNOW ON >> ARE SOME CLIENTS RELUCK ANT TO-- RELUCTANT TO GET INTO IT.

ARE THEY SHY?

WHAT DO YOU DO IF THAT'S THE CASE.

LIKE SOMEBODY DOESN'T WANT TO DRUM.

WHAT DO YOU DO?

>> IT'S AMAZING JUST TO WATCH THE DRUMMERS WHEN PEOPLE START TO DRUM, THERE IS A WHOLE PHYSICAL CHANGE THAT HAPPENS AND THEIR WHOLE AFFECT CHANGES AND ALL OF A SUDDEN THEIR CHIN COMES UP, YOU GET THE BIG SMILE.

PEOPLE START TO VOCALIZE OR VERBALIZE THAT DON'T NORMALLY DO THAT.

AND THEN THEY JUST GET FOCUSED AND ENGAGED IN THE ACTIVITIES.

AND IT CAN TAKE A WHILE, THAT LITTLE EXERCISE THAT WE DID WAS VERY QUICK AND YOU ARE MUSICIANS SO YOU ARE ENTRAINED WITH THAT VERY QUICKLY.

IT CAN TAKE A LONG TIME BUT IT'S SO FUN TO JUST BE IN A THERAPEUTIC SETTING WHERE A PERSON MAYBE WITH AUTISM IS OFTEN CLOSED INTO THEMSELVES, BUT YOU START TO PLAY THAT BEAT AND OVER TIME THEY START TO CONNECT WITH IT BECAUSE SO MUCH OF WHAT WE DO IS ALL ABOUT THE RELATIONSHIP AND MAKING THE CONNECTIONS.

AND THEN YOU MEET THEM WHERE THEY ARE AT THEIR RHYTHM WITH THEIR MUSIC AND THEN GRADUALLY YOU BRING THEM AROUND TO WHERE YOU ARE WHERE YOU CAN START TO INTERJECT AND GET THAT INTERCHANGE.

>> YOU ARE USING MUSIC TO BUILD A PRIMARY RELATIONSHIP FOR PEOPLE.

REALLY ON A NON-VERBAL LEVEL.

YOU ARE TUNING INTO THEM, BECAUSE WORDS CAN GET US INTO TROUBLE.

YOU CAN BYPASS IT AND GO TO A DEEPER LEVEL OF THE BRAIN.

>> RIGHT.

WE ARE THROWING THINGS INTO THE MUSIC AND THERE ARE SO MANY WAYS TO THROW THINGS INTO THE MUSIC, IT CAN BE THE RHYTHM, SONG, SONGWRITING, PARTICIPATING, SINGING.

BUT THERE IS A NEW SENSE OF HOLDING THERE AND THEN THAT RELATIONSHIP IS ABLE TO BE BUILT AND IT ALSO BYPASSES ALL OF THAT SPEECH STUFF.

IT TAKES US TO PREVERBAL, YOU KNOW, AND CONNECTS WITH OUR EMOTIONS.

>> I HAVE A LOT OF EXPERIENCE IN PEDIATRIC MEDICAL SETTINGS AND IF YOU THINK ABOUT, YOU KNOW, A CHILD RECEIVING A NEW DIAGNOSE OF CANCER, FOR EXAMPLE, TRYING TO PROCESS THAT, FOR A CHILD, EVEN FOR AN ADULT TO SAY I'M SCARED, I'M ANGRY.

IT DOESN'T CAPTURE WHAT THOSE FEELINGS ARE.

AND SO THROUGH MUSIC THERAPY, WE CAN SAY WHAT IS YOUR ANGER SOUND LIKE?

LET'S PLAY IT TOGETHER.

>> NICE.

>> AND IT PROVIDES AN OUTLET TO EXPERIENCE THESE EMOTIONS AND EXPRESS THEM IN A VERY VISCERAL WAY.

>> SO WHAT DOES THIS MEAN TO YOU PERSONALLY?

, YOUR WORK?

>> I THINK FOR ME, IT JUST MADE IT SO I REALIZE WHY I'M A MUSICIAN.

IT JUST MADE IT, I THINK IT JUST GIVES ME PURPOSE, I THINK.

AND GRATITUDE, THAT I'M ABLE TO SHARE SOMETHING THAT COMES SO NATURALLY TO ME AND I'M ABLE TO HELP OTHER PEOPLE SING AGAIN, ESPECIALLY PEOPLE WHO ARE GOING THROUGH TRAUMA, THROUGH WAR, TO SEE THE SOLDIERS COMING BACK TO LIFE AND HAVING PURPOSE AND FOCUS, LIKE ONE I JUST TALKED TO YESTERDAY WHO HAD LOST EVERYTHING AND NOW HE HAS HIS OWN BUSINESS AND IS SINGING.

SO JUST VERY SATISFYING.

>> SO YOU ARE GIVING BACK.

>> YES.

>> AND AS YOU GIVE BACK, PEOPLE ARE COMING TO LIFE THROUGH THAT CONNECTION WITH YOU.

HOW ABOUT GAIL, WHAT DOES IT MEAN TO YOU PERSONALLY?

>> IT'S JUST SUCH A JOY TO BE ABLE TO HELP PEOPLE DISCOVER THEMSELVES, DISCOVER THEIR OWN CREATIVITY AND TO SEE THE JOY WITHIN THAT; AND MAYBE JUST RELEASES THEM COMPLETELY FROM WHATEVER THEY'RE OR DEALING WITH IN LIFE.

AND TO BE ABLE TO SHARE THAT WITH THEM.

>> MUSIC MAKES SECTIONS-- MUSIC MAKES CONNECTIONS.

WE CONNECT BACK WITH OURSELVES.

WE CONNECT WITH OTHERS.

WE CONNECT BACK INTO COMMUNITY.

SO MANY WAYS LIKE THAT.

AND IT ALSO OPENS UP THE TRANSCENDENT SPACE INTO WONDER AND CURIOSITY AGAIN INTO WHAT BEING ALIVE IS.

>> HOW ABOUT WE PLAY OURSELVES OUT.

WE JUST ABOUT OUT OF TIME.

THAT'S ALL THE TIME WE HAVE, BUT I WANT TO THANK OUR GUESTS AGAIN FOR JOINING US.

KATH FATHERS: BOARD CERTIFIED MUSIC THERAPIST, LICENSED CREATIVE ARTS THERAPIST, AND CO-FOUNDER/DIRECTOR OF CNY MUSIC THERAPY AMANDA MAESTRO-SCHERER: BOARD CERTIFIED MUSIC THERAPIST AND FOUNDER OF MAESTRO MUSIC THERAPY GAIL HEALY: BOARD CERTIFIED MUSIC THERAPIST AND FOUNDER OF DRUM SONG: FACILITATED DRUMMING AND SAMITE MULONDO: EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR FOR MUSICIANS FOR WORLD HARMONY BE SURE TO VISIT WCNY.ORG/CYCLEOFHEALTH TO SEE ADDITIONAL CONTENT, PRIOR EPISODES, AND OUR WEB SERIES CHECKUP FROM OUR NECKUP.

FOR THE CYCLE OF HEALTH, I'M PSYCHOLOGIST DOCTOR RICH O'NEILL.

THANKS FOR CHECKING IN.

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