>>> COMING UP NEXT ON ARIZONA HORIZON.

THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION'S TALK OF SUSPENDING HABEAS CORPUS.

ALSO TONIGHT, CALLS FOR STRONGER DEMOCRATIC INSTITUTIONS TO DEAL WITH HOTTER CLIMATES.

AND, WE'LL HEAR ABOUT A LOCAL RESCUE GROUP'S EFFORTS TO FIND FOREVER HOMES FOR SENIOR DOGS.

THOSE STORIES AND MORE, NEXT ON ARIZONA HORIZON.

>>> GOOD EVENING AND WELCOME TO ARIZONA HORIZON.

I'M TED SIMONS.

A WILDFIRE CONTINUES TO BURN IN THE TOWN OF GREER, IN APACHE COUNTY.

NO WORD OF ANY INJURIES, BUT MULTIPLE STRUCTURES HAVE BEEN DESTROYED.

THE FIRE'S BURNED MORE THAN 35-HUNDRED ACRES.

STATE ROUTE 260 IS CLOSED IN BOTH DIRECTIONS IN THE AREA.

THIS IS THE SAME PART OF THE STATE THAT SAW ARIZONA'S LARGEST WILDFIRE IN HISTORY, THE WALLOW FIRE, BACK IN 2011.

THAT ONE BURNED MORE THAN 522-THOUSAND ACRES.

>> ON CAPITOL HILL, 3-KEY HOUSE COMMITTEES APPROVED A REPUBLICAN PLAN TO CUT-BACK PROGRAMS, INCLUDING MEDICAID, TO HELP PAY FOR A MAJOR TAX CUT PROMISED BY PRESIDENT TRUMP.REPUBLICAN LAWMAKERS ARE STILL WORKING ON THE PLAN, WHICH CALLS FOR CUTS TO MEDICAID, FOOD STAMPS AND SUBSIDIES FOR CLEAN ENERGY TO PARTLY OFFSET THE NEARLY 4-TRILLION DOLLAR COST OF THE TAX CUTS, ALONG WITH INCREASED SPENDING ON MILITARY AND IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT.

SPEAKER OF HOUSE SAYS THAT THE BILL COULD A DONE DEAL AS EARLY AS TOMORROW.

>> IT'S A PROCESS.

OVER IN THE SENATE, ARIZONA'S MARK KELLY IS NOT IMPRESSED WITH THE HOUSE REPUBLICAN PLAN.

>> THEY WILL ATTEMPT TO PASS SOMETHING THAT WILL KICK 16 MILLION PEOPLE OFF OF THEIR HEALTHCARE, OFF OF MEDICAID.

IT WILL REALLY IMPACT OUR STATE.

IT WILL HURT THE ASSISTANCE OF 8 MILLION KIDS.

KIDS WON'T GET MEALS BECAUSE OF THIS LEGISLATION TO GIVE A TAX CUT TO THE WEALTHIEST AMERICANS.

IT'S PRETTY CLEAR.

ONE MORE HEADLINE: THE E.P.A.

TODAY SAID THAT IT PLANS TO WEAKEN AND RE-CONSIDER FEDERAL GUIDELINES ON TOXIC CHEMICALS IN THE COUNTRY'S DRINKING WATER.THE BIDEN ADMINISTRATION HAD INCREASED BANS AND TESTING FOR SO- CALLED FOREVER CHEMICALS, BUT THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION NOW SAYS IT WILL CHANGE THAT POLICY BY PROTECTING DRINKING WATER WHILE PROVIDING, QUOTE, COMMON SENSE FLEXIBILITY IN FOR THE FORM OF ADDITIONAL TIME FOR COMPLIANCE.>>> THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION IS CONSIDERING A SUSPENSION OF HABEAS CORPUS AS A WAY TO ALLOW THE PRESIDENT TO DEPORT MIGRANTS WITHOUT DUE PROCESS.

BUT DOES THE PRESIDENT HAVE SUCH POWER FOR THIS PARTICULAR PURPOSE?

JOINING US NOW IS FORMER U.S. ATTORNEY PAUL CHARLTON, A PARTNER AT DENTONS.

GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN.

THANK YOU FOR THE BASICS.

WHAT DOES IT MEAN OR DO?

>> IT MEANS LITERALLY YOU HAVE THE BODY.

IN LAYPERSONS TERMS, IT MEANS, JUDGE, YOUR HONOR, MAKE THE GOVERNMENT EXPLAIN WHY THIS PERSON IS IN CUSTODY.

IT'S A POWERFUL TOOL SINCE THE FOUNDING OF OUR COUNTRY.

IT'S INSHRINED IN THE CONSTITUTION AND DUE PROCESS TO EVERYBODY HELD BY THE GOVERNMENT IN CUSTODY.

>> EVERYONE IN THE U.S. HAVE THAT RIGHT?

>> EVERYONE INCLUDING PEOPLE MOST NOTORIOUS NOW WHO HAVE BEEN HERE UNLAWFULLY.

EVEN PEOPLE FROM GANGS ARE ENTITLED TO DUE PROCESS.

>> IN OTHER WORDS, I CAN'T ACCUSE YOU OF BEING IN THE GANG UNLESS I PROVE IT?

>> THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT IT MEANS.

WE THE GOVERNMENT AND HABEAS CORPUS SAID I CAN GO TO COURT AND SAID MAKE THE GOVERNMENT PROVE I SHOULD REMAIN IN CUSTODY.

>> HABEAS CORPUS HAS BEEN SUSPENDED THREE OR FOUR TIMES IN U.S. HISTORY.

TELL US ABOUT THAT.

>> FOUR TIMES.

THE U.S. CONSTITUTION UNDER ARTICLE ONE WHERE WE FIND THE POWER FOR U.S. CONGRESS SAID YOU CAN SUSPEND HABEAS CORPUS IF THERE IS A WAR OR REBELLAN.

SO, IF YOU THINK ABOUT REBELLION.

LINCOLN SUSPENDED HABEAS CORPUS DURING WAR.

HE DID IT ON HIS OWN AND A JUDGE FOUND IT WAS UNLAWFUL.

CONGRESS, WHEN THEY CAME BACK IN SESSION RATIFIED THE SUSPENSION.

IT HAPPENED AFTER PEARL HARBOR.

PRESIDENT ROOSEVELT SAID THE AREA SURROUNDING HAWAII SAID IT HAD BEEN A WAR AND JAPANESE WAR.

SO, WAR OR REBILLION ARE THE INSTANCES YOU WOULD SEE HABEAS CORPUS SUSPENDED.

>> THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION SAID WE ARE IN ONE OF THOSE TIMES.

DOES THAT MAKE SENSE TO YOU.

>> THE WORD WE HAVE UNDERSTOOD IT MEANS SOMETHING LIKE PEARL HARBOR.

THEY FOUND AN INVASION AND INVADING THE UNITED STATES.

>> WHAT COULD HAPPEN THOUGH IS THE WAY WITH THE CONSTITUTIONAL OR WOULD WANT, YOU GO TO THE CONGRESS AND SAY YOU'D LIKE THE PRIVILEGE SUSPENDED.

YOU WOULD HAVE TO GET CONGRESS TO AGREE, THERE IS AN INVASION.

WHETHER THAT WOULD HAPPEN OR NOT IS VERY UNCLEAR.

>> THAT'S THE QUESTION HERE, CAN IT BE UNILATERALLY IMPOSED BY THE EXECUTIVE.

BY ONE GUY.

YOU KEEP MENTIONING CONGRESS.

CONGRESS IS PLAYING A BIGGER PART HERE.

>> THE LAW IS PRETTY CLEAR.

THEY CANNOT DECLARE THE SUSPENSION.

IT'S A LOT OF LOGIC BEHIND THAT THINKING.

IT'S THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH THAT'S ARRESTING PEOPLE.

IF THE EXECUTIVE BRANCH SAYS, WE NO LONGER HAVE TO DEAL WITH THE COURTS.

I CAN HOLD PEOPLE IN CUSTODY AND DENY THEM THE RIGHT TO HAVE DUE PROCESS HEARING AND HOLDING THEM LAWFULLY.

A SEPARATE BRANCH OF GOVERNMENT.

HOLD ON, WE'D LIKE ANOTHER RANGE OF GOVERNMENT TO MAKE SURE THE EXECUTIVE HOLDING PEOPLE IN CUSTODY LAWFULLY.

>> THEY HAVE DECIDED THE EXECUTIVE CAN DO WHATEVER HE WANTS IF HE THINKS THE COUNTRY IS AT RISK.

>> WE'LL HAVE TO SEE.

THIS IDEA OR CONCEPT WE WILL HAVE TO SEE WHAT IT IS THE U.S. SUPREME COURT WOULD DECIDE OR SAY.

>> WITH THE ONE INDIVIDUAL IN EL SALVADOR.

ON A GRANDER SCALE.

HOW DOES IT WORK?

>> THE WAY IT WORKED IN THE PAST ABSENT OF ONE EVENT LINCOLN WAS WORRIED THE CAPITOL WOULD BE OVERTAKEN BY TROOPS HE SUSPENDED HABEAS CORPUS FOR THE TIME CONGRESS WAS OUT OF SESSION.

THAT WAS THE ONLY THING.

OTHERWISE YOU GO TO CONGRESS AND SAY, WE HAVE AN INVASION, THAT'S THE ADMINISTRATION'S VIEW.

WE'D LIKE YOU TO SUSPEND THE RIT OF HABEAS CORPUS.

SOMETIMES THE GOVERNMENT GETS IT WRONG.

WE ARE NOT 100% CORRECT WHEN WE DETAINED PEOPLE.

SOMETIMES YOU CAN DETAIN A U.S. CITIZEN.

SOMEONE HERE UNLAWFULLY.

YOU'D LIKE TO AFFORD EVERYONE.

PEOPLE HERE UNLAWFULLY THE OPPORTUNITY TO GO TO COURT AND SAY, HOLD ON, I OR THEY SHOULDN'T BE DETAINED.

>> WHEN PRESIDENT TRUMP SAYS IT'S AN OPTION WE ARE LOOKING AT, I MEAN, HOW FAR CAN HE GO WITH THAT?

>> IN THE FIRST PART.

THAT'S A LOT OF DISCUSSION.

A CERTAIN GROUP OF HIS SUPPORTERS LIKE THIS.

JUST TO GO FORWARD AS AN EXECUTIVE DECISION.

YOU SEE ALL SORTS OF HEARINGS WEIGHTING IN IMMEDIATELY.

TO TAKE THE MOST APPROPRIATE STEP WE BELIEVE IT SHOULD BE SUSPENDED I'LL GO TO CONGRESS.

THERE IS A GREAT DEAL OF DEBATE AND WE HAVE HEARD FROM SOME LEADERS ON THE REPUBLICAN SIDE THAT EXPRESSED THE IDEA OF SUSPENDING THE RIT.

>> THE ADMINISTRATION SAID THE COURTS CANNOT OVERRULE THE PRESIDENT'S DECISIONS ON HOW IS THAT JUST IT'S INTERESTING TO GET TO A CERTAIN GROUP OF PEOPLE.

WHEN THEY TRIED THE ARGUMENTS IN COURT THEY UNIFORMLY LOST.

IMPORTANTLY, IN EVERY INSTANCE WHAT THEY HAVE SAID IS EVEN PEOPLE WHO ARE HERE UNLAWFULLY ARE ENTITLED TO DUE PROCESS.

WE HAVE TO PROVE WE CAN HOLD THESE PEOPLE IN CUSTODY.

>> FORMER U.S. ATTORNEY WITH DENTON.

INTERESTING TIMES.

>> SURE IS.

>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME.

>>> GOOD MORNINGCY CALLS FOR STRONGER DEMOCRATIC INSTITUTIONS TO PREPARE AGAINST TEMPERATURES AND AVOIDING CLIMATE CHAOS.

TONIGHT WE WELCOME THE BOOK'S EDITOR, DAVID ORR, A PROFESSOR OF PRACTICE AT ASU'S COLLEGE OF LIBERAL ARTS AND SCIENCES.

GOOD TO SEE YOU.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

DEMOCRACY IN A HOTTER TIME.

CLIMATE CHANGE AND DEMOCRATIC TRANSFORMATION.

WHAT ARE WE GETTING AT HERE?

WE KNEW TO DO A LOT BETTER THAN WE DID ON CLIMATE ISSUES.

THE FIRST WARNING WAS IN 1965 TO LIP DON JOHNSON.

SINCE THEN A SERIES OF WARNINGS AND IT'S MORE DEFINITIVE.

NO DEBATE ABOUT THE WARMING OCCURRING.

YOU CAN SEE THAT IN WILDFIRES AND SO FORTH.

HAVING REACTED DECADES AGO WHEN WE FIRST KNEW WE HAD A PROBLEM.

>> WHERE IS THE INTERSECTION WITH THAT PROBLEM COMES DOWN TO DCCY.

WE CAN'T SOLVE CLIMATE CHANGE THE ISSUE IS SO BIG FROM THE STREET TO GOBBLE LEVEL.

DRIVERRING DOWN AND VOTING FOR DIFFERENT REPRESENTATIVES.

IT COMES DOWN FROM ALL LEVELS EVERYONE KIND OF ISSUES.

>> IS CLIMATE CHANGE IN AND OF ITSELF ERODING DEMOCRACY?

>> YES, ABSOLUTELY.

I THINK THAT'S DESCRIBING PART OF THAT.

TOWARDSAAUTHOR TERRITORYISM.

THE PROBLEM HERE IS THE PROTECTION OF FOSSIL FUELS.

THAT'S A $3 TRILLION GLOBAL BUSINESS.

IF YOU FOLLOW THE MONEY.

>> WE HEARD ABOUT THAT FOR A LONG TIME.

MONEY INVOLVED IN POLITICS WE DISCUSS FOR A LONG PERIOD OF TIME.

WHAT KIND OF NEW POLITICAL ORDER.

EVERYONE HAS A DIFFERENT IDEA HERE.

SOMETHING HAS TO CHANGE.

WHAT NEEDS TO CHANGE?

>> WELL, THE SHORT LIST STARTS WITH MONEY GETTING MONEY OUT OF POLITICS.

ENDING THE CORRUPTION.

IF YOU RUN FOR OFFICE YOU WILL RAISE A LOT OF MONEY.

PEOPLE HAVE EVENTS AN INTEREST WITH FOSSIL FUEL.

NUMBER TWO, IT'S BEGINNING TO ORGANIZATION THE GOVERNMENT.

THAT CAME THROUGH THE BOOK.

THE ECONOMY IN ENVIRONMENTAL PROBLEMS.

THE WAY WE DO VIRTUALLY EVERYTHING.

IT'S NOT ROCKET SCIENCE.

A THIRD THING, I THINK WE THINK REPRESENTATION.

FIRST WE ARE THE ONLY ONES.

WE ARE CASTING A LONG SHADOW ON GRANDCHILDREN AND THEIR GRANDCHILDREN BY THE CONSTITUTION.

WE HAVE TO RETHINK THE WHOLE SUBJECT INTERESTING.

>> I NOTICED SOME IDEAS WERE URBAN DESIGN.

>> THAT WAS AN INTRIGUING IDEA.

IT COMES OUT OF ARIZONA STATE UNIVERSITY.

I THINK THE IDEA IS GETTING PEOPLE INVOLVED IN THE LAND USAGE DECISION.

FOR THE MOST PART, PEOPLE ARE EXCLUDED FROM THAT.

OTHERWISE WE REBUILD COMMUNITIES WITHOUT ENGAGING THE PEOPLE THAT LIVE-IN THOSE COMMUNITIES AND LIVE BY THEM.

ONE OF THESE IS THE MOST EXCITING THING.

WE KNOW WHAT WE NEED TO DO IT.

THE QUESTION IS GETTING OUT-OF-THE-WAY AND MAKE THE TRANSITION.

>> THAT'S THE QUESTION BUT HOW DO WE DO THAT.

CONSTITUTIONAL REFORM AND THESE SORTS OF THINGS.

THAT'S MENTIONED IN THE BOOK AS WELL.

HOW DO YOU GET OUT OF YOUR OWN WAY?

IT'D BOW BOILS DOWN TO A LOT OF DECISIONS.

WHEN YOU FLIP THE SWITCH-ON YOUR HOUSE FOR HEAT, WHERE DOES THE HEAT COME FROM.

WE ARE MAKING THE TRANSITION FROM RENEWABLE ENERGY AND DESIGN.

WE KNOW ALL OF THESE THINGS IT'S AN IMPORTANT ARCHITECT.

THEY KNOW HOW TO DO THAT AND MAKE THEM EFFICIENT AND BEAUTIFUL.

IF YOU SAY TRANSPORTATION ENGINEERS, YOU DON'T NEED A CAR TO GO EVERYWHERE.

YOU INCLUDE THINGS YOU NEED ON A DAILY BASIS FOR SCHOOLS.

YOU HAVE PROXIMITY.

YOU HAVE TO GET YOUR GROCERIES.

IT COMES DOWN TO POLITICS.

THE PERSPECTIVOUS FOUR YEARS YOU MADE A GOOD BIT OF PROGRESS.

WORRY ABOUT THE UNDOING OF CLIMATE POLICIES AND THINGS TO MAKE THE TRANSITION.

>> WE ARE RUNNING AUTO OF TIME.

A COLLECTION OF ESSAYS THEY ARE FASCINATING TO READ.

A FORWARD THINKING ASPECT.

SOMEONE MENTIONED WE ARE IN A SINGULAR MOMENT.

WHAT IF DEMOCRACY DOESN'T SURVIVE THAT?

>> WELL, THAT'S THE QUESTION ISN'T IT.

IT'S A QUESTION FOR ALL OF US.

IT'S BUILDING SCIENCE IN THE CURRICULUM.

YOU CAN'T RUN A COUNTRY WITH PEOPLE THAT ARE ILLITERATE.

IT COMES DOWN TO HOW YOU VOTE, WHO YOU VOTE FOR, AND WHAT YOU KNOW.

ONE THING I HOPES HAPPENING THROUGHOUT ALL OF THE UNIVERSITIES IS STUDENTS GRADUATE KNOWING WHAT PLANET THEY ARE ON AND HOW THAT WORKS.

ALSO, UNDERSTAND WHY DEMOCRACY IS IMPORTANT.

OF COURSE HOW DID THESE COME TOGETHER.

I HOPE I ANSWER YOUR QUESTIONS.

THE BAD NEWS TIME IS SHORT AND THIS IS GLOBAL ISSUE.

WE KNOW WHAT TO DO AND WE STARTED TO DO IT GLOBALLY.

U.S. CITIZENS MORE CHAOS.

SO, THE PUBLIC, IF YOU GET THE QUESTIONS RIGHT AND THE PUBLIC IS WITH US, THE QUESTION IS CAN THE POLITICAL SYSTEMS STEP-UP, THAT MEANS BACK TO MY FIRST POINT GETTING A LOT OF THAT DARK MONEY OUT OF OUR POLITICAL LIFE.

>> THE BECOME IS DEMOCRACY BY DAVID ORR.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US AND SHARING.

WE APPRECIATE IT.

>> THANK YOU.

NICE TO BE HERE.

>>> FOREVER LOVED PET SANCTUARY IS SCOTTSDALE'S ONLY SENIOR DOG RESCUE GROUP.

THEIR MISSION IS TO HELP OFTEN OVERLOOKED SENIOR DOGS FIND THEIR FOREVER HOMES.

TO LEARN MORE, WE WELCOME THE FOUNDER AND EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF FOREVER LOVED PET SANCTUARY, LUISA CHOCRON.

AND ALSO WITH US IS PICKLES.

>> I KNOW HOW TO PRONOUNCE HER NAME, THAT'S PICKLES.

TELL US ABOUT PICKLES.

>> SHE'S A 13-YEAR-OLD MIX.

SHE CAME FROM NORTHERN ARIZONA.

IN 2024 AND ABLE TO LAUNCH AN INITIATIVE TO REACH OUT TO A LOT OF THE RURAL COUNTIES THROUGHOUT ARIZONA.

>> WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT SENIOR DOG WHAT AGE.

>> 7 YEARS OLD IS WHAT IS CONSIDERED.

>> I KNOW, LITTLE PICKLES CAN LAST LONGER TAN THE BIGGER DOGS.

>> YES, ABSOLUTELY.

>> HOW DOES IT WORK TO FIND THE NEXT HOME.

>> WE HAVE ALL DOGS LISTED ON OUR WEBSITE.

IT'S ON PET FINDER.

IF YOU SEE PICKLES AND FALL IN LOVE AND FILL OUT AN ADOPTION APPLICATION.

OUR TEAM WILL REACH OUT TO YOU AND CHAT WITH YOU ON THE PHONE.

SET UP A MEET AND GREET.

AND THEN, FROM THERE, WE DO A QUICK HOME CHECK TO MAKE SURE SHE IS SAFE IN THE ENVIRONMENT.

IF IT WORKS OUT AND YOU SAY YES, YOU SIGN-ON THE DOTTED LINE.

>> JUST LOOKED UP WHEN YOU SAID THAT.

IS THERE FOSTER CARE OR FOSTER FAMILIES.

>> YES, YES.

ALL OF THEM COME INTO THE SMALL SANCTUARY IT'S ON MY PROPERTY.

ONCE THEY GO THROUGH THE INITIAL VET VISIT.

ALL OF THAT GOOD STUFF FROM THERE THEY DO TO FOSTER HOMES WHERE THEY TEAM THEM TO BE A GOOD DOG.

THEY HAD A DENTAL MOST 90% OF THE DOGS COME INTO OUR CARE.

>> THEY HAVE A PROBLEM WHEN THEY FIND THEM LIKE THAT.

>> DO YOU WORK WITH OTHER SHELTERS WHEN THEY GET DOGS UP THERE IN AGE.

>> WE DO.

WE DO.

WE ARE NOT PARTNERS WITH THE 19 OTHER SHELTERS WHEN THE STATE OF ARIZONA.

THAT WORKS.

WHAT TO KNOW WHEN YOU WANT TO ADOPT A SENIOR DOG.

WHAT DO PEOPLE NEED TO KNOW WHEN THEY GO, HUM.

>> WHY A SENIOR.

>> MOST OF THE TIME WHEN THEY COME TO US THEY ARE STRAYS AT THE SHELTER.

SHE DIDN'T MAKE IT TO 30 YEARS OLD AS A STRAY.

SO, IT'S REALLY ABOUT GIVING ALL THEY WANTED TO GIVE YOU IS LOVE AND ATTENTION.

THEY WILL RETURN IT IN 10 FOUND.

TWO OTHER DOGS I'D LIKE TO MENTION IS TEDDY BEAR.

>> HE'S AN-YEAR-OLD PIT BULL WE GOT FROM ANOTHER SHELTER.

>> THERE HE IS.

>> HE CAME FROM, I NEED TO USE MY CHEAT SHEET.

HE CAME FROM APACHE COUNTY.

>> YES.

>> IN NORTHERN ARIZONA THEY DON'T HAVE THE RESOURCES WE HAVE IN THE PHOENIX AREA.

THEY ASKED IF WE'D HELP OUT AND WE DID.

WE BROUGHT HIM DOWN HERE AND GOT HIM MEDICAL CARE AND LUCKILY HIS FOSTER MOM FELL IN LOVE WITH HIM.

HE'S ADOPTED.

>> REALLY QUICK.

HENRIETTA.

>> SHE CAME TO US AND WE GOT HER FIXED UP.

SHE WENT TO A REPEAT ADOPTER.

THEY LOVE TO ADOPT THE SUPER SENIORS AS WE CALL THEM.

>> ONCE YOU GET INVOLVED.

>> YOU CAN'T HAVE ONE.

THEY ARE LIKE POTATO CHIPS.

>> FOREVER LOVE PET SANCTUARY, CAN WE FIND YOU ONLINE.

>> FOREVER LOVE PETS.ORG.

>> IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN PICKLES YOU CAN FIND PHOTOS ON OUR WEBSITE.

>> THAT'S THE MOST CHARMING LITTLE DOG.

SHE'S A WINNER.

CONGRATULATIONS, GREAT WORK.

>> THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

>> THANK YOU FOR HAVING US.

>> BYE PICKLES.

THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US.

YOU HAVE A GREAT