>> COMING UP NEXT ON "ARIZONA HORIZON", A LOOK BACK AT THE PRESIDENT TRUMP'S FIRST 100 DAYS IN OFFICE.

ALSO TONIGHT, A NEW BILL COULD REQUIRE THE USE OF FEMALE CRASH TEST DUMMIES IN AUTO SAFETY TESTS.

AND THE PHOENIX ART MUSEUM SHOWCASES THE WORK OF AN ICONIC PHOTOGRAPHER.

THOSE STORIES AND MORE NEXT ON "ARIZONA HORIZON."

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>> GOOD EVENING, AND WELCOME TO "ARIZONA HORIZON."

I'M TED SIMONS.

THE U.S. SUPREME COURT TODAY HEARD ORAL ARGUMENTS ON A CASE INVOLVING THE USE OF STATE MONE TO RUN THE NATION'S FIRST RELIGIOUS CHARTER SCHOOL.

THE CASE INVOLVES A CATHOLIC CHARTER SCHOOL IN OKLAHOMA.

THE STATE'S CHARTER SCHOOL BOARD APPROVED THE SCHOOL, BUT OKLAHOMA'S ATTORNEY GENERAL, A REPUBLICAN, SUED CLAIMING THAT A RELIGIOUS PUBLI SCHOOL WOULD VIOLATE THE 1ST AMENDMENT AND THE STATE'S CONSTITUTIONAL BAN ON PUBLIC SPENDING TO SUPPORT RELIGIOUS INSTITUTIONS.

THE SUPREME COURT IS NOT EXPECTED TO DECIDE ON THE CASE UNTIL LATE JUNE OR EARLY JULY.

ECONOMIC GROWTH IN THE U.S.

CONTRACTED FOR THE FIRST TIME I THREE-YEARS.

THAT'S ACCORDING TO THE COMMERCE DEPARTMENT WHICH REPORTED TODAY THAT THE NATION' GROSS DOMESTIC PRODUCT FELL IN FIRST THREE MONTHS OF THE YEAR AT AN ANNUAL RATE OF 0.3%.

THAT'S MORE OF A DECLINE THAN ECONOMISTS HAD PREDICTED AND IT'S A SIGNIFICANT DECLINE FROM THE FINAL THREE MONTHS OF LAST YEAR WHEN THE ECONOMY EXPANDED BY 2.4%.

MOST ECONOMIST POINT TO PRESIDENT TRUMP'S GLOBAL TRADE POLICIES AS THE MAJOR FACTOR IN THE DECLINING NUMBERS.

BUT NOT THE PRESIDENT.

HE BLAMED FORMER PRESIDENT JOE BIDEN FOR THE CURRENT NUMBERS.

>> GDP, YOU PROBABLY SAW SOME NUMBERS TODAY.

AND I HAVE TO START OFF SAYING THAT'S BIDEN, NOT TROUBLE THINK.

WE CAME IN ON JANUARY, THESE ARE QUARTERLY NUMBERS.

AND WE CAME IN AND I WAS VERY AGAINST EVERYTHING THAT BIDEN WAS DOING IN TERMS OF THE ECONOMY.

>> THE PRESIDENT ADDED THAT THE WEAK ECONOMIC FIGURES HAVE, QUOTE NOTHING TO DO WITH TARIFFS, BUT DEMOCRATS ON CAPITOL HILL BEG TO DIFFER.

>> THESE TARIFFS ARE A DISASTER THEY SERVE NO POSITIVE PURPOSE AT ALL.

AND THERE IS A LOT OF HESITATION ON THE PART OF MANY OF MY REPUBLICAN COLLEAGUES BECAUSE OF THE POWER OF TRUMP.

BUT AT A CERTAIN POINT THEY'LL BE LISTENING TO THE POWER OF THEIR CONSTITUENTS WHO WANTS NO MORE TARIFFS.

>> THAT SAID, THE THREAT OF TARIFFS LED TO AN INCREASE IN CONSUMER SPENDING LAST MONTH.

THE COMMERCE DEPARTMENT TODAY REPORTED THAT SPENDING INCREASE ON AUTOMOBILES, WHICH HAVE BEEN TARGETED FOR TARIFFS, INCREASED BY ALMOST 57% IN MARCH LEADING THE OVERALL SPENDING SURGE.

YESTERDAY MARKED THE FIRST 100 DAYS IN OFFICE FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP.

THE PAST THREE-PLUS-MONTHS HAVE BEEN NOTHING IF NOT CONSEQUENTIAL.

FOR AN OVERVIEW OF WHERE WE'VE BEEN AND WHERE WE'RE GOING WE WELCOME JASON BARRAZA, A PARTNER AT VERDIUS, AND WES GULLET, THE CEO OF O.H.

HE IS WITH NEXUS.

GOOD OF YOU HERE, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

>> THANK YOU.

>> JASON, WE'LL START WITH YOU SINCE YOU ARE ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE AISLE HERE.

100 DAYS, TRUMP PRESIDENCY.

THOUGHTS.

>> IT HAS BEEN ONE OF THE MOST CONSEQUENTIAL CHANGES IN AMERICAN POLICY AND AMERICAN DIRECTION THAT WE HAVE PROBABLY SEEN IN 50, 75, 100 YEARS.

THIS HAS -- IS MONUMENTAL.

AND WE DON'T EVEN KNOW THE BREADTH OF WHAT IS CHANGING IN AMERICA RIGHT NOW.

WE ARE ONLY SEEING THE START OF IT.

BUT IT HAS BEEN MONUMENTAL.

AND REPRESENTS A NEW COURSE FOR AMERICA.

>> JUST GENERAL THOUGHTS, WES AND WELL TICK IT FROM THERE.

>> WELL, YOU KNOW, WHEN I WAS HERE BEFORE THE ELECTION I SAID LET'S NOT GO TO THE CHAOS OF THE PAST.

WE HAVE THE CHAOS OF THE FUTURE NOW.

AND IT'S EVEN MORE CHAOTIC THAN IT WAS BEFORE.

SO I WISH PEOPLE WOULD -- PEOPLE CHOSE FOR THIS CHAOS.

SO WHICH IS WHAT WE'VE GOT.

>> WES, I READ THAT HE'S CHANGED AMERICA, AT LEAST HOW AMERICA IS PERCEIVED AROUND THE WORLD.

MORE THAN ANY PRESIDENT SINCE FDR.

TRUE?

>> OH, 100 PERCENT, THERE IS NO QUESTION THAT AMERICA HAS CHANGED.

WE ARE ALL THINKING ABOUT IT WHETHER WE THINK ABOUT WHERE WE ARE GOING ON VACATION THIS SUMMER BECAUSE WE ARE GOING TO STAY HERE IN THE UNITED STATES BECAUSE WE DON'T KNOW WHAT OTHER PEOPLE ARE THINKING ABOUT US.

BUT, YOU KNOW, WHEN I WAS A KID, WE WERE TAUGHT THE GOLDEN RULE, AND THE GOLDEN RULE WAS TREAT OTHERS LIKE YOU TREAT -- LIKE YOU WANT TO BE TREATED YOURSELF.

AND I THINK THAT DONALD TRUMP WAS ABSENT THAT DAY.

BECAUSE THIS IS JUST CRAZY TOWN >> AND JASON, EXECUTIVE ORDERS, WE HAVE HAD ALMOST AS MANY IN THREE MONTHS AS THE FORMER PRESIDENT HAD IN FOUR YEARS.

I THOUGHT EXECUTIVE ORDERS WERE BAD BECAUSE, YOU KNOW, CONGRESS DIDN'T LIKE THEM.

NOW YOU GOT A CONGRESS THAT SAYS BRING IT ON.

>> WELL, THEY ARE BAD WHEN YOU HAVE A GOVERNMENT SYSTEM THAT IS BASED ON THREE EQUAL PARTS.

BUT WHEN YOU HAVE SOMEONE LEADING ONE OF THOSE PARTS, THAT THINKS THAT THEY ARE THE END ALL AND THE DECISION MAKER, REGARDING EVERY LITTLE THING IN AMERICA H THAT'S THE WAY BUSINESS IS DONE.

THIS IS WHAT THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION, SECOND TRUMP ADMINISTRATION IS ALL ABOUT.

HIS SOLE RULE OF AMERICA.

>> DO YOU AGREE WITH THAT?

>> WELL, I THINK -- I THINK PRESIDENT TRUMP IS ACTING AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE.

HE MADE A LOT OF PROMISES DURING THE CAMPAIGN AND HE'S TRYING TO ACT ON THOSE, THE BEST WAY TO ACT ON THOSE IS EXECUTIVE ORDERS.

NOW THEY ALL HAVE TO FIGURE OUT THROUGH THE COURTS BECAUSE SOME OF EM THEM ARE IN VIOLATION OF THE U.S. FEDERAL LAW THAT THE CONGRESS PASSED AND THE PRESIDENT SIGNED.

SO WE'LL SEE HOW IT ALL WORK OUT NOT COURTS, BUT THERE HAS BEEN A LOT GOING ON, YEAH.

>> AS FAR AS IMMIGRATION CRACK DOWN, CAMPAIGN PROMISES THERE, DID HE NOT?

>> CERTAINLY WAS A CAMPAIGN PROMISE.

I DON'T KNOW IF AMERICA REALLY UNDERSTOOD EXACTLY WHAT HE MEANT.

I DON'T THINK THAT THEY UNDERSTOOD THAT HE MEANT THROWING OUT BIRTHRIGHT CITIZENSHIP, CHANGING THE WAY THAT AMERICA HAS DONE THINGS FOR YEAR, AND/OR THROWING OUT DUE PROCESS AND ESSENTIALLY PICKING UP PEOPLE UP OFF THE STREET AND DECIDED WHO CAN STAY OR WHO CAN'T.

>> DEPORTATIONS HAVE THEY INCREASED SO FAR?

>> I DON'T THINK IF THEY HAVE INCREASED SPECIFICALLY BUT CERTAINLY HOW WE GO ABOUT IT HAS CHANGED THE.

>> THE PERCEPTION OF PROCESS OF DEPORTATIONS, WES, THAT'S OBVIOUSLY CHANGED.

>> YEAH.

AND YOU CAN SEE IT.

YOU HAVE A SENSE THAT PEOPLE ARE NERVOUS.

I TALK TO PEOPLE ALL THE TIME WHO ARE NERVOUS ABOUT GOING TO WORK.

THEY MIGHT BE JOKING, BUT DOWN DEEP, MY DAUGHTER WAS BONG IN BANGLADESH AND CALLED ME UP AND SAID WILL I BE DEPORTED?

THAT'S A NATURALIZED U.S. CITIZEN.

>> WES, SPEAKING WITH YOU, TARIFF POLICIES SEEM TO BE, CORRECT ME IF I AM WRONG, TURNING THE WORLD UPSIDE DOWN.

>> THE THING THAT I FIND UNUSUAL, IS ONE, HE DIDN'T JUST -- HE DIDN'T TELL US -- GIVE US THE BACK STORY.

AND THE BACK STORY WITH EUROPE, YOU KNOW, YOU CAN SEE HOW THOSE MIGHT WORK OUT.

BUT CANADA, CANADA IS LIKE OUR BROTHER.

THEY ARE LIKE OUR YOUNGER BROTHER AND WE ARE TREATING THEM LIKE -- LIKE THEY ARE ENEMIES, AND I DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT ONE.

>> WHY ARE WE TURNING ALLIES INTO OPPONENTS?

IS SEEMS LIKE THE PRESIDENT WOULD LOVE TO DO THIS AND MEANWHILE VLADIMIR PUTIN IS GETTING AWAY WITH BOMBING KIEV.

>> THE ANSWER TO THAT QUESTION LIES INSIDE THE PRESIDENT AMOUNTS HEAD AND I WILL NOT VENTURE THAT FAR INTO THAT QUAGMIRE.

EXACTLY WHAT THESE TARIFFS ARE MEANING TO THE WORLD.

WE TALK ABOUT OUR PERCEPTION AMONGST OUR AL THE LIES WE ATTACKING OUR ALLIES ECONOMICALLY BY PUTTING THESE TARIFFS IN PLACE AND WE ARE DOING NOTHING BUT HURTING AMERICANS WHO PUT HIM IN OFFICE TO HELP LESSEN THE STRAIN ON THEIR POCKET BOOKS AND HIS FIRST ACTIONS WERE TO INCREASE THAT STRAIN.

THAT'S NOT WHAT AMERICA WANTED.

>> IF THE TARIFFS, THOUGH, WORK, IN TERMS OF GETTING BETTER TRADE DEALS, DIFFERENT TRADE DEALS, INDIVIDUALLY OR IN SOME SORT OF GROUP FASHION, IS IT ALL WORTH IT?

>> HE SAID GIVE IT TIME.

LET'S WAIT.

TELL THAT THE PEOPLE WHO ARE WORKING TWO, THREE JOBS STRUGGLING TO PUT FOOD ON THE TABLE WORRIED ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT THEIR JOB IS GOING TO PAY FOR THE THINGS THAT THEY NEED.

THEY DON'T HAVE TIME TO WAIT.

THEY CAN'T RIDE THIS OUT.

THEY DON'T HAVE THE TRUST FUND THAT IS SITTING THERE THAT CAN PAY FOR THINGS LIKE EVERYBODY IN THE PRESIDENT'S WORLD DOES.

>> WITH THAT IN MIND, IS THERE A SELF LIFE HERE FOR, ESPECIALLY TARIFFS AND ECONOMIC CONCERNS?

>> WELL, I THINK THAT EVEN IF THE TARIFFS DO BRING PEOPLE TO THE TABLE, THEY BRING THEM TO THE TABLE MAD.

AND THAT'S NOT REALLY HOW WE TREAT OUR ALLIES.

AND THESE ARE OUR ALLIES, JAPAN, SOUTH KOREA, EUROPE, CANADA, MEXICO, THEY ARE OUR FRIENDS, AND NOW THEY ARE COMING TO THE TABLE BUT THEY ARE BEING DRUG TO THE TABLE WITH A STICK TO THEIR HEAD.

>> AS FAR AS AMERICA IS CONCERNED, IT SOUNDS AS THOUGH WE HAD A RELATIVELY BOOMING ECONOMY.

OBVIOUSLY INFLATION WAS A DIG DEAL BUT THE ECONOMY, GDP.

THE WHOLE REST OF THE THING WAS HUMMING ALONG AND IT'S NOT HUMMING ALONG WELL RIGHT NAIL.

>> THERE IS SO MUCH UNCERTAINTY >> IS THAT THE BOTTOM LINE BEING THE UNCERTAINTY?

>> IT'S THE UNCERTAINTY.

AND THAT'S THE CHAOS, THE UNCERTAINTY, THE CHAOS AND THAT'S WHAT -- AND IF YOU ARE A BUSINESSPERSON TODAY, ARE YOU GOING TO MAKE A MAJOR INVESTMENT?

NO, YOU ARE WAITING AND SEE.

THAT TIMELINE THEN, SLOWS DOWN THE ECONOMY.

THAT'S WHAT YOU ARE SEEING IN THOSE NUMBERS FOR THE FIRST QUARTER.

IT'S THE UNCERTAINTY HAS CAUSED THIS SLOW DOWN AND THAT IS WHY WE HAVE HAD NEGATIVE GROWTH.

>> DO YOU AGREE WITH THAT?

>> YEAH, I DEFINITELY AGREE WITH THAT.

BUSINESS THRIVES SO PREDICTABILITY.

WHO IS THAT GOING TO APPLY TO?

HOW MUCH IS GOING TO BE APPLIED THAT'S BEEN UP IN THE AIR AND IMPOSSIBLE TO GET A HANDLE ON.

>> DISMANTLING THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WITH ELON MUSK'S GROUP AT THE HELM HERE, THE IMPACT NOW, THE IMPACT IN THE FUTURE?

>> WE DON'T KNOW WHAT THE IMPACT IS IN THE FUTURE BECAUSE I DON'T THINK WE FULLY UNDERSTAND WHAT DOING AWAY WITH SOME OF THESE ORGANIZATIONS REALLY FULLY MEANS.

USAID FOR EXAMPLE, WHAT THEY HAVE BEEN BRINGING TO THE WORLD, THAT IS FAR BEYOND WHAT I THINK HAS BEEN CHARACTERIZE THE AS CHARITY.

THIS IS ABOUT HOLDING OTHER COUNTRIES, OTHER NATIONS AT BAY, THOUGHT PROCESS.

THIS WAS BROUGHT ABOUT TO STOP COMMUNISM AND SOCIALISM SPREAD AGO CROSS AMERICA AND NOW WE ARE DOING AWAY WITH IT HOPING FOR IT BEST.

>> ISN'T THIS, WES, WHAT REPUBLICANS HAVE ALWAYS WANTED.

>> YES, WE HAVE.

>> SMALLER MORE -- I DON'T KNOW HOW HE USED TO SAY, QUICKER, FASTER FEDERAL GOVERNMENT GET RID OF ALL THIS BLOAT AND WASTE.

IS HE NOT DOING WHAT REPUBLICANS HAVE ALWAYS WANTED?

>> I AM NOT A FAN OF DONALD TRUMP BUT I DO LIKE SOME OF THE STUFF.

BUT I TELL YOU WHAT, IT'S DANGEROUS FOR US TO ELIMINATE THINGS THAT WE HAVE GLOBAL LEADERSHIP IN.

WHEN YOU BLANKET CUT GRANT FUNDING FOR INSTITUTIONS LIKE ASU, AND RESEARCH, WHICH IS WHAT WE LEAD THE WORLD IN IN IDEAS AND TECHNOLOGY, THAT'S DANGEROUS.

THAT IS DANGEROUS.

>> LAST QUESTION, BOTTOM LINE, WES WE'LL STICK WITH YOU, AND THEN YOU JASON.

ARE WE A BETTER COUNTRY AND IN BETTER SHAPE THAN WE WERE 100 DAYS AGO?

>> OH, NO.

NO.

WE ARE IN A CONFLICT WITH OUR BROTHERS TO THE NORTH.

ON OUR CONTINENT, THAT'S -- THAT IS A PROBLEM.

>> I GUESS IF THE GUY LEANING RIGHT SAYS WE WERE NOT BETTER I GUESS THE GUY LEANING LEFT SAYS -- >> OUR ECONOMY IS IN QUESTION.

THE NATION DOES NOT HOLD US IN THE SAME -- THE WORLD DOES NOT HOLD US IN THE SAME STANDING AS THEY USED TO.

WE ARE NOT IN A BETTER PLACE NO,.

>> 1300 MORE DAYS OF THIS, CAN WE HANDLE IT?

>> WE'LL SEE WHAT THE MIDTERMS BRING.

>> THIS IS A RESILIENT COUNTRY.

WE HAVE FUNDAMENTAL PROTECTIONS IT WILL BE VERY INTERESTING TO SEE HOW THIS ALL WORKS OUT.

AND WHERE THE SUPREME COURT ENDS ON A LOT OF THESE QUESTIONS AND WE'LL SEE IF THE RULE OF LAW IS MORE IMPORTANT THAN THE RULE OF PERSONALITY.

>> WES GULLET, JASON VERDIUS, GENTLEMEN, ALWAYS APPRECIATE YOU GOOD TO HAVE YOU BOTH HERE, THANKS JOINING US.

>> IT YOU.

>> THANK YOU.

>> I AM WORKING AT ARIZONA PBS FOR MANY REASONS.

>> THE PEOPLE.

I AM FORTUNATE TO WORK WITH SOME REALLY TALENTED INDIVIDUALS.

>> I WAS SHOCKED, LIKE I WAS GOING TO WORK FOR THE PLACE THAT PRODUCES SESAME STREET.

>> I LOVE THAT WE HAVE SUCH A STRONG COMMUNITY IMPACT.

>> BECAUSE I GET TO TELL THE STORIES OF ARIZONA.

>> REALLY THERE IS NO JOB MORE FULFILLING THAT USING YOUR SKILLS AND TALENTS AND ABILITY TODAY ENRICH YOUR COMMUNITIES.

>> THE CREATIVITY AND THE PASSION OF MY COLLEAGUES.

>> IT'S JUST A GREAT PLACE AND I LOVE BEING HERE.

>> I AM CATHERINE HOLT OF HORIZONTE THE GROUNDBREAKING PROGRAM THAT SERVE AS AS A PLAT FOR ARIZONA'S LATINO COMMUNITY FOR MORE THAN TWO DECADES.

>> LATINOS CARE ABOUT ISSUES ACROSS THE BOARD JUST LIKE EVERYBODY.

>> THERE IS THOUGHT AND DIVERSITY AND WANT TO MAKE SURE THAT PARENTS HAVE THE VALUE IN HAVING MULTILINGUAL STUDENTS.

>> WE LIKE TO HAVE OUR VERSUS HEARD.

>> STREAM EPISODES ONLINE.

YOUTUBE OR THE PBS APP.

>> I HAVE GLAD TIDINGS TO IMPART.

WHOA.

>> LOOK AT THAT.

>> I AM STILL SURPRISED AT HOW GOOD I AM.

>> JANE AUSTEN WAS MY SISTER.

>> I DIDN'T THINK THAT I WOULD STUDY MEDICINE BUT HERE I AM.

>> ABSOLUTELY DELICIOUS.

ESPECIALLY STRAIGHT OUT OF THE OVEN.

>> I HAVE NEVER SEEN ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

♪ >> I THINK WE HAVE SUFFICIENT CAUSE FOR CELEBRATION.

THE.

>> THE SHE DRIVES ACT IS NEW FEDERAL LEGISLATION AIMED UPDATING AUTO SAFETY TESTS BY USING CRASH-TEST DUMMIES MODELS AFTER WOMEN AS WELL AS MEN.

STUDIES SHOW THAT WOMEN ARE MORE LIKELY TO SUFFER SERIOUS INJURIES IN A CAR CRASH, AND YET SAFETY TESTS ARE LARGELY DESIGNED FOR MEN.

JOINING MOUSE IS MAC LAMBER AN ATTORNEY FROM THE LAW FIRM FENNMORE.

GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN, THANK FOR INNING JOG US.

>> GOOD TO HE SEE YOU TOO.

>> THE SHE DRIVES BETTER ACT.

GIVE ME A BETTER DEFINITION.

>> WHAT YOU ARE DEALING WITH HERE IS AN ACT DESIGNED TO CLOSE THIS GAP, THIS BARRIER BETWEEN SAFETY STANDARDS FOR MEN AND WOMEN.

IF YOU LOOK BACK 40, 50, 60 YEARS, THE CRASH DUMMIES THAT WERE USED AND THE TECHNOLOGY USED TO PROTECT US WAS REALLY FOCUSED ON MEN.

ONLY.

AND SO WITH THE SHE DRIVES ACT DOES NOW IT LAUNCHES US FORWARD SO WE CAN LOOK AT CRASH DUMMIES FOR WOMEN AND DIFFERENT SIZES, DIFFERENT SHAPES, DIFFERENT MUSCLE MASS AND SO ON.

>> INTERESTING.

WOMEN 17% MORE LIKELY TO BE KILLED IN CAR CRASHES.

>> YEAH.

>> AS AN ATTORNEY, DEALING WITH THESE KIND OF THINGS, DOES THAT SOUND FAMILIAR?

DOES THAT RING ABEL?

>> IT DOES, UNFORTUNATELY.

I HAVE BEEN A PERCENTAGE JURY LAWYER FOR THE LAST 30-PLUS YEARS THE THING I KNOW IS THERE ARE CERTAIN TYPES OF INJURIES THAT I SEE OVER AND OVER AGAIN IN WOMEN BUT NOT MEN.

I CAN GIVE YOU SOME EXAMPLES.

>> PLEASE.

>> SO YOU HAVE CLAVICLE FRACTURES NOT THAT A MAN CAN'T SUSTAIN THAT, BUT IN MY THREE DECADES OF DOING THIS, 95% OF THE TIME I SEE SOMEONE INJURED WITH A CLAVICLE INJURY, A CLAVICLE FRACTURE CAUSED BY A SEAT BELT.

SHOULDER STRAP.

>> OKAY.

>> IS IN A WOMAN.

I ALSO SEE PELVIC FRACTURES THAT ARE REALLY COMMON IN WOMEN BUT NOT AS MUCH IN MEN.

>> AND, AGAIN, THE REASON THAT MAYBE SEATBELTS ARE DESIGN THE WAY THEY ARE AND OTHER ASPECTS OF A VEHICLE AND THE COCKPIT IF YOU WILL, DESIGNED THE WAY IT IS, IS BECAUSE FEMALE MODELED CRASH-TEST DUMMIES NEVER EXISTED.

DIDN'T EVEN TRY THEM OUT.

>> INITIALLY THEY WERE NOT EVEN USED AT ALL.

THEY WERE ONLY USING MALE CRASH-TEST DUMMIES FOR DECADES.

AND THEN THERE WAS AN INTRODUCTION OF USING FEMALE CRASH DUMMIES, BUT THOSE DUMMIES REPRESENTED THE FIFTH PERCENTILE.

WHERE THE MEN, THE DUMMIES REPRESENT THE 50TH PERCENTILE.

SO THE AVERAGE MAN.

BUT IN THE CASE OF A WOMAN, YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT A WOMAN WHO IS GOING TO BE 4'11" AND WEIGH 110-POINTS.

>> SO HOW WOULD THE LEGISLATION CHANGE THINGS?

WHAT WOULD IT REQUIRE AUTO FIRMS, CAR MAKERS?

WHO IS INVOLVED HERE?

>> IT'S THE NATIONAL HIGHWAY TRANSPORTATION SAFETY ADMINISTRATION, IT'S A TONGUE TWISTER.

BUT THAT'S THE ORGANIZATION THAT PROMOTES THE REGULATIONS RELATED TO SAFETY AND DRIVING.

SO WHAT THIS IS GOING TO DO IS REQUIRE NOW IF IT'S PASSED AND RIGHT NOW IT'S GOING TO BE -- GOING TO A VOTE TO THE SENATE IS THE CRASH-TEST DUMMIES THE NEW FORM OF THEM, ARE REPRESENTATIVE OF A WOMAN AND THEY ARE PUSHING TO TRY ON GET IT TO THE 50TH PERCENTILE WOMAN.

BUT IN ADDITION, IT'S GOING TO REFLECT THEIR MORPHOLOGY, THEIR ANATOMY, IF YOU WILL.

IT'S GOING TO -- IT'S GOING TO ADDRESS THEIR MUSCLE MASS, THEIR DIFFERENCES IN THE PELVIC GIRDLE, A DIFFERENT AREAS OF THE BODY THAT HAD NOT BEEN ADDRESS AT FOR SAFETY PURPOSES.

>> THE BIGGEST MATES MAYBE 1300 LIVES COULD BE SAVED JUST FROM THAT ONE CHANGE.

>> YES.

YOU THINK ABOUT IT, THAT'S IN THE UNITED STATES ALONE, 1.2 MILLION PEOPLE THAT DIE IN CAR CRASHES WORLDWIDE EVERY YEAR.

AND IF YOU THINK THAT THERE IS A GRADER PERCENTAGE OF WOMEN WHO ARE DYING BECAUSE THE SAFETY EQUIPMENT WAS NEVER DESIGNED FOR THEM IN THE FIRST INSTANCE.

WHEN YOU TRANSLATE THAT TO NUMBER IT'S HUGE NUMBERS.

>> THE CHANGE OBVIOUSLY IS AND IT IS A BIPARTISAN BILL I CAN'T IMAGINE IT THE NO GETTING TO THE SENATE.

CAN YOU TARGET OTHER VULNERABLE GROUPS, ELDERLY AND FOLKS LIKE THAT.

CAN THIS GROW FROM HERE?

>> I THINK IT NEEDS TO.

AND I THINK THAT'S THE DIRECTION IT'S HEADED.

I THINK RIGHT NOW, THE MAJORITY OF DRIVERS ON THE ROAD ARE WOMEN.

AND WOMEN ARE ACTUALLY LESS ACCIDENTS THAN MEN, YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT A HUGE DEMOGRAPHIC THAT HASN'T BEEN ADDRESSED.

I DO THINK THERE ARE OTHER DEMOGRAPHICS THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED, LIKE PEOPLE OF SMALL STATURE.

PEOPLE THAT IN TERM OF WEIGHT ARE HEAVIER.

THEY ARE ALL DIFFERENT DEMOGRAPHICS THAT NEED TO BE ADDRESSED THAT CAN BE.

AND IT'S NOT SUGGESTING THAT THE AVERAGE MAN OR WOMAN SHOULDN'T BE ADDRESSED JUST MAKE SURE IT ACCOMMODATE DIFFERENT PEOPLE.

>> YES, GET MORE PEOPLE IN THE CIRCLE.

MARC LAMBER ATTORNEY HERE THIS IS REALLY INTERESTING, I NEVER KNEW IT WAS A THING AND IT'S NOT JUST A THING IT'S LEGISLATION AND ABOUT TO BE LAW.

GOOD OF IT YOU HERE.

>> GOOD TO BE HERE, THANK YOU.

♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ ♪♪ I AM JEFF BENNETT TONIGHT ON THE NEWS HOUR WE TAKE STOCK OF PRESIDENT TROUBLE''S ECONOMIC POLICIES MORE THAN 100 DAYS INTO HIS SECOND TERM.

THAT'S AT 6:00 ON ARIZONA P.M. >> ANNEX DITCHES AT THE PHOENIX ART MUSEUM IS SHOWCASING THE WORK OF LEGAL YOU ARE DANE A PHOTOGRAPHER RICH AIR AFTER SON, EMILY MICKEVICIUS IS THE CURE OUTER AT THE PHOENIX ART MUSEUM AND SHE JOINS US NOW, EMMY, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

>> THANK YOU.

>> WHO WAS RICHARD AVEDON.

>> SO HE WAS ONE OF THE MOST ICONIC PHOTOGRAPHERS OF THE 21TH CENTURY AND KNOWN FOR PHOTOGRAPHING CELEBRITY UNITED STATES BUT WAS A CELEBRITY IN HIS OWN RIGHT AND PRODUCED ICONIC IMAGES OF OUR BELOVED CELEBRITY ILL FIGURES.

>> KNOWN FOR PROF RATS.

>> YES, AND SIX DECADE CAREER.

>> STARTED AS A FASHION PHOTOGRAPH ARE, CORRECT?

>> YES, CORRECT.

AND HE ACTUALLY MADE IDENTITY PHOTOGRAPHS FOR THE MILITARY FOY TWO YEARS ASK INTERESTING.

>> MADE PORTRAITS WHILE HE WAS SERVING DURING WORLD WAR II AND THEN IMMEDIATELY AFTERWARDS, STARTED WORKING FOR HARPER'S BIZARRE MAGAZINE.

HE STUDIED WITH ALEXI.

THE ESTEEMED ART DIRECTOR OF THE MAGAZINE AND THAT'S HOW HE GOT HIS START.

>> I SAW -- BEFORE WE GET TO THE PHOTOS HERE I SAW A QUOTE WHERE HE SAID, MY PORTRAITS ARE MORE ABOUT ME THAN THE PEOPLE I PHOTOGRAPH.

WHAT DEMEAN BY THAT?

>> IT'S SUCH A RICH QUOTE.

IT'S SO INTERESTING TO THINK ABOUT WHAT THAT MIGHT MEAN.

AVEDON REALLY WAS NOT A BELIEVER IN THE ITEM THAT A PORTRAIT DISTILLED THE ESSENCE OF A PERSON, YOU KNOW, HE REALLY THOUGHT ABOUT POUR THAT TRUE MORE DYNAMICALLY AS ANNEX CHANGE OF PERSONALITIES ANNEX CHANGE OF ENERGY PEOPLE BETWEEN.

AND I THINK HIS PORTRAIT BEINGS YOU KNOW, REAL -- PORTRAITS REALLY HELP US THINK ABOUT WHAT DO YOU LEARN FROM A PICTURE OF SOMEONE, FROM LOOKING AT IT.

IT'S THE PERSON WHO SHOWED UP TO HIS STUDIO ON THAT DAY, IT'S ONE MOMENT FROM A LONG LIFE.

>> IT'S A SNAPSHOT.

>> EXACTLY.

>> LET'S GO TO SOME OF THE PHOTOGRAPHS.

WE START WITH MARILYN MONROE WITH THE PHOTOGRAPH THAT THAT SAYS A LOT, DOESN'T IT?

WITHOUT SAYING ANYTHING.

>> EXACTLY.

YEAH.

SO THIS IS ONE OF THE EXHIBITION PHOTOGRAPHS THAT I AM REALLY DRAWN TO BECAUSE THE SHOW, YOU KNOW, THINKS ABOUT THE GAPS BETWEEN PEOPLE'S PRIVATE LIVES AND THEIR PUBLIC PERSONAS AND HOW AVEDON'S PHOTOGRAPHS SHOW THAT.

SO THIS IS FROM A PHOTO SHOOT WHERE HE KIND OF CAUGHT HER IN THIS MOMENT LOOKING A LITTLE INTROSPECTIVE AND THAT REALLY CONTRASTS, RIGHT, WITH HOW WE THINK OF HER AS THIS EXUBERANT CELEBRITY WHO IS FULL OF LIFE AND HERE HE CATCHES HER IN A QUIETER MOMENT.

>> SHOWS THE PRIVATE LIFE AND THE PUBLIC LIFE ALL?

THE SAME SHOT, DOESN'T IT?

>> EXACTLY.

>> ANOTHER ONE HERE.

AND WHO WAS SHE AND WHAT IS SHE DOING OUT THERE?

>> THIS IS ONE OF THE MODELS THAT AVEDON WORKED WITH VERY CLOSELY.

HE HAD REALLY CLOSE WORKING RELATIONSHIPS WITH A NUMBER OF MODELS FOR HARPER'S BIZARRE AND OTHER MAGAZINES AND THROUGHOUT THE 50S, AND SO SHE WAS, YOU KNOW, ONE OF THE BIGGEST MODELS OF HER TIME AND ACTUALLY CREATED HER NAME FROM DOROTHY VIRGINIA MARGARET AND THE START OF ALL OF THOSE NAILS, SHE WAS THE HIGHEST PAID MODEL IN HER TIME AND HERE WE GO SEE ONE OF AVEDON'S MOST ICONIC PICTURE APPROXIMATES OF HER WHERE SHE'S WITH THESE ELEPHANTS AND HE'S SHOOTING FILM.

IT'S NOT DIGITAL.

THIS IS SO FAR BEFORE DIGITAL.

JUST IMAGINING WHAT AN EYE HE HAD TO HAVE TO BE ABLE TO, YOU KNOW, CATCH A MOMENT LIKE THAT.

WHERE SHE'S MID GESTURE AND KNOWING LIKE I GOT THE SHORT.

>> I THINK SHE WAS -- WASN'T SHE ONE OF THE FIRST SUPER MODELS?

>> YES, ABSOLUTELY.

YEAH.

>> THERE SHE IS.

THE NEXT ONE IS NATASHA KINSKI AND THIS IS VERY PRO HAVE BEEN TIFF AND A LOT OF PEOPLE RECOGNIZE THIS ONE.

>> YES.

YES.

AND SHE LOOKS SO CALM AND I WOULD NOT THAT.

I AM A LITTLE FREAKED OUT BY SNAKES.

THIS IS A REALLY ICONIC IMAGE THAT BLEW UP IN OUR CULTURE.

>> IT DID.

PEOPLE BOUGHT POSTERS OF IT.

IF YOU LOOK CLOSELY THE SNAKE'S TONGUE IS RIGHT NEAR HER EAR.

>> YEAH.

>> IT'S AN UNSETTLING IMAGE THE CLASH OF THE SNAKE AND THE BEAUTY OF HER FIGURE.

THIS IS JUST A COUPLE OF YEARS BEFORE SHE REALLY KIND OF SHOT TO STARDOM AS THE CENTRAL CHARACTER IN THE MOVIE "PARIS TEXAS" FROM 1984.

>> SHE HAD QUITE A CAREER GOING FOR HER.

ALL RIGHT.

MARIAN ANDERSON IS OUR NEXT PHOTOGRAPH.

WHICH AND SHE WAS AN OPERA STAR AND HAD QUITE A STORY DIDN'T SHE?

>> YEAH, EXACTLY.

YES, SHE WAS A CONTRALTO SINGER AND, YOU KNOW, PERFORMED IN A VARIETY OF ROLES AND SO THE SHOW REALLY SHOWCASES AVEDON'S PORTRAITS OF FELLOW CREATIVE PEOPLE LIKE ARTISTS, WRITESSERS, MUSICIANS AND SHE'S ONE OF OUR PERFORMERS THAT IS FEATURED AND I LOVE HOW THIS IMAGE IS SO EMBLEMATIC OF HOW AVEDON BRINGS US SO CLOSE TO HIS SUBJECTS.

YOU KNOW, YOU CAN SEE EVERY POUR, EVERY WRINKLE, EVERY HAIR IN THEIR EYEBROWS.

AND I FEEL LIKE LOOKING AT THE PICTURE YOU CAN JUST FEEL THE KIND OF, YOU KNOW, THE BREATH, THE SONG COMING OUT OF HER VOICE.

>> AND, AGAIN, MARIAN ANDERSON HAD TO SING ON THE STEPS OF THE LINCOLN MEMORIAL BECAUSE THE DAUGHTERS OF THE AMERICAN REVOLUTION WOULD NOT ALLOW HER TO SING IN CONSTITUTION HALL OF WASHINGTON D.C. BECAUSE OF HER RACE.

THAT IS -- AND YOU CAN ALMOST, ONCE YOU KNOW THE STORY AND HEAR THE STORY YOU CAN SEE THAT IN IN THIS PHOTOGRAPH.

>> TAKES ON A DIFFERENT GRAVITY >> IT DOES, BEFORE WE GO WE HAVE TO GET TO PAUL MCCARTNEY HERE HE'S THE LAST ONE WE'LL SHOW, THAT'S A YOUNG PAUL MCCARTNEY.

>> IT IS.

I WAS JUST THINKING ABOUT THAT EARLIER.

YOU KNOW, LOOKING CLOSELY AT THIS PICTURE YOU CAN SEE HOW FRESHLY SHAVEN HE IS.

GOING BACK TO JUST HOW CLOSE AVEDON BRINGS US TO HIS SITTER'S FACES AND A JOINT OF POPULAR CULTURE IN THIS MOMENT OF QUIET INTROSPECTION AND YOU CAN FEEL THE KIND OF CALM AND TRUST THAT AVEDON HAD WITH HIS 60S.

>> LONG BEFORE HE WAS SIR PAUL.

CONGRATULATIONS ON THE EXHIBITION, HOW DOES IT RUNE.

>> ON VIEW UNTIL MAY 25TH.

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