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TED: COMING UP NEXT ON "ARIZONA HORIZON," ARIZONA SENATOR MARK KELLY FIRES BACK AFTER THE U.S.

DEFENSE SECRETARY THREATENS TO CENSURE HIM AND REDUCE HIS MILITARY BENEFITS.

>>> ALSO TONIGHT, WE'LL HEAR WHAT PUBLIC HEALTH ADVOCATES ARE LOOKING FOR FROM THE UPCOMING LEGISLATIVE SESSION.

>>> AND HOW CONSUMERS CAN PROTECT THEMSELVES WITH ONLINE PRODUCTS MADE WITH ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE.

THOSE STORIES AND MORE NEXT ON "ARIZONA HORIZON."

GOOD EVENING, AND WELCOME TO "ARIZONA HORIZON."

I'M TED SIMONS.

SENATOR MARK KELLY TODAY REACTED TO DEFENSE SECRETARY PETE HEGSETH WHO ACCUSED KELLY OF, QUOTE, SEDITIOUS ACTS FOR APPEARING IN A VIDEO REMINDING MILITARY SERVICEMEMBERS THEY ARE OBLIGATED TO REFUSE ILLEGAL ORDERS.

HEGSETH OFFERED A FORMAL LETTER OF CENSURE THAT WILL BE ENTERED INTO KELLY'S PERSONNEL FILE WHICH COULD LEASE TO REDUCTION IN MILITARY RANK AND PENSION.

HIS RESPONSE TODAY TO HEGSETH'S ACTIONS -- >> THANKS FOR COMING AT ME.

LET ME SAY A COUPLE THINGS UP-FRONT.

SO IN NOVEMBER, MID-NOVEMBER, MYSELF AND FIVE COLLEAGUES, WE DID A VIDEO, SAYING SOMETHING PRETTY BASIC.

DON'T FOLLOW ILLEGAL ORDERS.

MEANS TO FOLLOW THE LAW, IN THE UNIFORM CODE OF MILITARY JUSTICE.

DONALD TRUMP DIDN'T LIKE IT, SAID WE SHOULD BE HANGED, EXECUTED, WHEN I GUESS THAT DIDN'T WORK OUT, FOR ME PERSONALLY PROSECUTED UNDER THE CODE OF MILITARY JUSTICE, SO THEN YESTERDAY I RECEIVED THIS LETTER THAT CENSURES ME AND THREATENS TO REDUCE ME IN RANK AFTER 25 YEARS IN THE UNITED STATES NAVY, FLYING 39 COMBAT MISSIONS, FOUR TIMES IN SPACE, DECADES IN SERVICE, THREATENING TO REDUCE MY RANK, SO DEMOTE ME BECAUSE OF SOMETHING I SAID, SOMETHING THAT WAS CLEARLY LAWFUL.

ALSO SOMETHING, BY THE WAY, THAT SECRETARY HEGSETH HAS SAID ON MULTIPLE OCCASIONS, BACK IN 2016.

SO THIS IS CERTAINLY THE HEIGHT OF HYPOCRISY.

I THINK IT'S ALSO IMPORTANT TO POINT OUT THAT, IN THIS LETTER, WHERE YOU MIGHT HAVE THOUGHT IT WAS JUST ABOUT THE VIDEO, IT'S NOT JUST ABOUT THE VIDEO THAT WE MADE, THIS IS ALSO ABOUT OTHER THINGS I'VE SAID.

THEY THINK I DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO CRITICIZE THEM WHEN THEY FIRE ADMIRALS AND GENERALS.

IT IS SPECIFICALLY IN HERE ON THE FIRST PAGE, AND TO SAY THEY HAVE SURROUNDED THEMSELVES WITH A BUNCH OF YES MEN.

THAT'S A FACT, ESPECIALLY IN THE WHITE HOUSE.

SO THIS IS OVER AN EXTENDED PERIOD OF TIME THAT THEY WANT TO MAKE IT PERFECTLY CLEAR THAT I AM NOT ALLOWED TO SAY WHAT I THINK, AND THAT'S DANGEROUS.

EVERY OTHER RETIRED SERVICEMEMBER LIKE ME OR EVERY VETERAN, EVERY ACTIVE DUTY SERVICEMEMBER, MAYBE EVERY U.S.

CITIZEN IS SAYING HEY, IF THEY CAN STOP UNITED STATES SENATOR FROM DOING HIS JOB AND SPEAKING OUT, WHAT DOES IT MEAN FOR THE REST OF US?

SO THIS IS REALLY CONCERNING.

WE'RE GOING TO DO WHAT WE CAN AND FIGHT THIS WITH EVERY TOOL THAT WE HAVE.

BUT THIS IS -- WHAT SECRETARY HEGSETH DID IN SENDING THIS LETTER IS AN EROSION OF EVERY U.S.

CITIZEN'S FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS.

>> Reporter: AREN'T YOU LIKELY TO LOSE THIS FIGHT WITH THE SECRETARY?

>> I DON'T -- WELL, FIRST OF ALL, THIS IS A LETTER HE SENT, GOES IN MY RECORD.

WE'LL RESPOND TO THAT.

I DON'T THINK I'M GOING TO LOSE A, YOU KNOW, FIGHT WITH HIM, BUT THAT'S NOT THE POINT.

YOU KNOW, THE POINT IS THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SHUT ME UP, AND THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

SO WHETHER I WIN OR LOSE THIS, THAT'S NOT THE CONSEQUENTIAL THING.

THE CONSEQUENTIAL THING IS, DO AMERICANS STILL SPEAK OUT AGAINST THIS GOVERNMENT?

YOU KNOW, I VIEW THAT NOT ONLY AS A RIGHT BUT A RESPONSIBILITY, ESPECIALLY IN MY JOB ON THE ARMED SERVICES COMMITTEE.

I WAS OVERSIGHT FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE.

WHETHER I LOSE OR WIN THIS FIGHT, WE'RE GOING TO FIGHT THIS WITH EVERYTHING WE HAVE BECAUSE I'M CERTAINLY IN THE RIGHT HERE.

YOU KNOW, I SAID SOMETHING THAT I BELIEVED THAT WAS LAWFUL, THAT WAS TRUE.

THIS WHITE HOUSE'S RESPONSE IS I SHOULD BE EXECUTED.

>> Reporter: OTHER LAWMAKERS ON THE VIDEO WITH YOU, YOU ARE THE ONLY ONE TARGETED LIKE THIS SO FAR FROM SECRETARY HEGSETH.

DO YOU THINK THAT THE SAME TREATMENT IS COMING FOR YOUR FELLOW LAWMAKERS?

WHY DO YOU THINK YOU HAVE BEEN SINGLED OUT?

>> WELL, IT'S -- IT'S A -- ONE OF THE DETAILS OF THIS IS I'M RETIRED, SO IT'S EASIER FOR THEM TO TARGET ME BECAUSE I'M A RETIRED MEMBER.

>> Reporter: WHAT ARE THE TOOLS AT YOUR DISPOSAL.

YOU MENTIONED YOU'RE GOING TO USE ALL OF THEM.

WHAT ARE THEY?

>> WELL, THERE ARE THINGS I CAN DO.

I'M DISCUSSING IT WITH ATTORNEYS AND WE'LL HAVE THE RESPONSE AT THE APPROPRIATE TIME.

>> Reporter: ARE YOU GETTING SUPPORT FROM COLLEAGUES IN THE SENATE AND OTHER VETERANS?

>> YEAH, I'M HEARING FROM VETERANS ALL THE TIME.

JUST THIS MORNING, I WAS IN NEW YORK DOING THE CBS MORNING SHOW, AND AS I WALKED IN THE DOOR, ONE OF THE SECURITY GUYS JUST SAID, HEY, I WAS TALKING ABOUT THIS WITH MY SON JUST YESTERDAY.

HE WANTED TO PASS ON IF I EVER SAW TO YOU THANK YOU BECAUSE THIS MEANS A LOT TO HIM IN HIS POSITION.

GUY THE WAS INTEL OFFICER IN THE ARMY, AND I HEAR THAT REPEATEDLY.

I ALSO HEAR IT FROM SOME OF MY SENATE COLLEAGUES ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE AISLE, SOMETIMES PUBLICLY, SOMETIMES NOT PUBLICLY.

TED: KELLY EMPHASIZED DEFIANCE OF THE DEFENSE SECRETARY'S ACTIONS AND MOTIVES.

>> I DON'T THINK I'M GOING TO LOSE A FIGHT WITH HIM, BUT THAT'S NOT THE POINT.

YOU KNOW, THE POINT IS THAT THEY'RE TRYING TO SHUT ME UP, AND THAT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.

LET ME MAKE IT PERFECTLY CLEAR.

THIS LETTER OR ANYTHING THAT PETE HEGSETH SAYS OR DOES TO ME IS IN NO WAY GOING TO AFFECT THE WAY I DO MY JOB AND REPRESENT MY CONSTITUENTS IN THE UNITED STATES SENATE.

AIN'T HAPPENING.

SO HIS OPTION RIGHT NOW IS HE CAN CONTINUE WITH THIS KIND OF BULL [ BLEEP ] OR HE CAN TAKE A HIKE.

THAT'S HIS OPTIONS.

>> KELLY HAS 30 DAYS TO SUBMIT A RESPONSE TO HEGSETH'S CHARGES, THE GRADE OF RETIREMENT PROCESS WILL BE COMPLETED IN 45 DAYS.

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TED: WE'RE HEARING FROM ADVOCATES OF VARIOUS ISSUES THIS WEEK TO LEARN ABOUT WHAT THEY'RE LOOKING FOR FROM THE STATE LEGISLATURE THIS UPCOMING SESSION.

LAST NIGHT WE HEARD FROM BUSINESS INTERESTS.

TONIGHT THE FOCUS IS ON PUBLIC HEALTH, AND JOINING US IS WILL HUMBLE, EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR OF THE ARIZONA PUBLIC HEALTH ASSOCIATION.

GOOD TO HAVE YOU HERE.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US YET AGAIN.

>> SURE, TED.

TED: WHAT ARE YOU LOOKING FOR FROM THE LEGISLATURE THIS SESSION?

>> THE USUAL SILLINESS, AND EVERY YEAR THERE ARE BILLS THAT LOTS OF BILLS THAT ARE GOOD FOR PUBLIC HEALTH, AND LOTS OF BILLS THAT WOULD BE BAD FOR PUBLIC HEALTH.

APPROACH THEY TAKE IS TO REALLY LOOK AT THE BILLS AS THEY GET PROPOSED AND THERE ARE SEVERAL PREFILED ALREADY, AND SORT THROUGH THOSE AND FIGURE OUT WHERE THE MOST VALUE ADDED FOR ME?

AT THE ARIZONA PUBLIC HEALTH ASSOCIATION, WE DON'T GO FORWARD AND RUN BILLS.

RATHER, WHAT I TRY TO DO IS FIND THE GOOD BILLS AND FIND THOSE THAT NEED A BOOST, ESPECIALLY THOSE THAT DON'T HAVE LOBBYIST WITH EXPENSIVE ITALIAN SHOES.

FIND THE BILLS AND HELP THEM GET ALONG THE LINE AND PUSH BACK ON BILLS THAT ARE BAD FOR PUBLIC HEALTH, AND WE CAN GIVE EXAMPLES.

TED: YEAH, I HAVE EXAMPLES COMING UP.

AS FAR AS THE BILLS YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE AND BILLS YOU WOULD LIKE TO SEE PURSUED, WHAT ARE THE AREAS OF INTEREST?

>> ONE OF THE AREAS I'VE BEEN FOCUSING ON IS RESIDENTIAL AND COMMUNITY TREATMENT FOR PERSONS WITH SERIOUS MENTAL ILLNESSES.

A BIG, AND I THINK UNDERRECOGNIZED CAUSE OF HOMELESSNESS AND THE HEAT DEATHS THAT WE SEE IN THE SUMMER ARE LINKED TO THE LACK OF HOUSING, PERMANENT SUPPORTED HOUSING FOR FOLKS WITH SERIOUS MENTAL ILLNESSES, SCHIZOPHRENIA, EFFECTIVE DISORDER.

THOSE THINGS.

TRYING TO GET OPTIONS FOR PEOPLE WITH SERIOUS MENTAL ILLNESS.

THOSE ARE THE NICHE ISSUES I'D LIKE TO GRAB ONTO BECAUSE THERE ARE BILLS THAT LEGISLATORS PROPOSE.

THERE'S NOT AN ENTITY OR LOBBYIST WORKING IT, BUT A LAWMAKER SEES A NEED FOR SOMETHING, AND STARTS PURSUING A GOOD BILL LIKE THAT, SO I TRY TO HELP THINGS LIKE THAT GET ACROSS THE LINE.

TED: IS THERE ANYTHING THE LEGISLATURE CAN DO REGARDING ACA PREMIUMS AND THAT PARTICULAR ISSUE?

>> I DON'T -- I DON'T THINK SO.

TED: ON A STATE LEVEL, NOTHING THEY CAN DO, IS THERE?

>> NO, THERE'S THE DEPARTMENT OF INSURANCE AND FINANCIAL INSTITUTIONS, THEY COULD TWEAK REGULATIONS AND STUFF.

NO, THE ANSWER IS NO.

TED: WHAT ABOUT HEALTH CARE COSTS IN GENERAL?

>> NOT MUCH.

IT'S REALLY NOT A LOT THEY CAN DO, YOU CAN NIBBLE ON THE EDGES WITH STATE LAWS, BUT SO MUCH OF THAT IS FEDERAL, I JUST DON'T SEE THAT'S A BIG EFFORT.

TED: YOU MENTIONED PREFILED BILLS.

ONE OF THEM WANTS TO BAN FLUORIDE IN DRINKING WATER.

THAT ISSUE IS COMING UP AGAIN, YOUR THOUGHTS?

>> IT'S UP TO CITIES NOW.

PHOENIX PUTS FLUORIDE IN THE WATER, TUCSON DOESN'T.

MOST OF THE VALLEY CITIES PUT FLUORIDE ON THE WATER, TO MAKE IT OPTIMAL.

YOU LOOK AT THAT AND CALIBRATE HOW MUCH FLUORIDE IS IN THE WATER.

SO CITIES CAN DO IT IF THEY WANT TO BUT DON'T HAVE TO DO IT.

THIS WOULD BE A BILL THAT SAYS CITIES YOU CAN'T ADD FLUORIDE TO DRINKING WATER ANYMORE.

TED: WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT?

>> THAT'S A NO.

IF IT GETS THROUGH, GOVERNOR HOBBS WILL VETO IT, IT'S WORTH PUTTING IN THE EFFORT UP-FRONT TO SAY WHY IT'S BAD SO PEOPLE GET THE MESSAGE AND THE IDEA, SO I SPENT A LITTLE TIME ON THOSE THINGS ON DEFENSE.

TED: FROM A PUBLIC HEALTH PERSPECTIVE, THERE'S A BILL TO RAISE SPEED LIMITS IN RURAL AREAS, YOUR THOUGHTS?

>> SO NOW DEPENDS ON THE DETAILS OF THAT BILL, SO IT'S LIMITED, I BELIEVE, IT WOULD BE LIMITED TO I-8.

TED: I BELIEVE THAT'S TRUE.

>> BETWEEN ELOY AND YUMA.

TED: OKAY, BUT DOES THAT MAKE A DIFFERENCE WHERE IT WOULD BE?

>> IT MAKE ACE DIFFERENCE WHERE IT WOULD BE.

THAT'S A STRAIGHT-ON HIGHWAY.

THE THING IS 75 IS ALREADY A VERY LETHAL SPEED.

TED: AND IT'S A SUGGESTED SPEED, TRUST ME.

>> 75 TO A LOT OF PEOPLE MEANS 82, AND I KNOW PEOPLE LIKE THAT, RELATED TO SOME.

AND SO 80 WOULD MEAN 90 TO PEOPLE, THAT'S WHAT MAKES THAT RELATIVELY UNSAFE.

ALTHOUGH IT IS LIMITED TO THAT SECTION OF I-8 AS AN EXPERIMENT.

TED: ANOTHER BILL THAT WOULD FUND A STATE STUDY ON TRUMP DERANGEMENT SYNDROME.

>> THAT'S A TASK ASSIGNED TO THE STATE HEALTH DEPARTMENT WHICH HAS THEIR HANDS FULL REGULATING NURSING HOMES, ASSISTED NURSING CENTERS, REGULATING HOSPITALS, ARIZONA STATE HOSPITAL.

NOT A GOOD USE OF AGENCY TIME, AND BY THE WAY, NOT A DIAGNOSABLE DECISION THAT HAS AN ICD CODE.

THERE'S NO WAY TO DO A STUDY ON SOMETHING THAT DOESN'T EXIST AS A DIAGNOSTIC PHENOMENA.

TED: IF IT WERE TO GET PAST THE GOVERNOR'S DESK IS IMPOSSIBLE TO IMAGINE.

THERE'S A BILL REGARDING CAMERAS IN ASSISTED LIVING FACILITIES?

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>> I'VE BEEN FOR THIS FOR A FEW YEARS NOW.

REPRESENTATIVE NGUYEN HAS BEEN RUNNING THIS BILL THAT WOULD ALLOW RESIDENTS OF ASSISTED LIVING AND SKILLED NURSING FACILITIES TO SAY IF FAMILY MEMBERS WANT TO PUT A CAMERA IN THE COMMON LIVING AREA, NOT THE BATHROOMS OR BEDROOMS BUT THE KITCHEN TO TAKE A POKE TO SEE WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE HOUSE TO MAKE SURE MOM AND DAD ARE SAFE, THIS IS A BILL THAT WOULD ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN, WITH CONSENT OF ALL THE PARTIES, AND KEEPS GETTING KILLED BY LOBBYISTS DOWN THERE.

TED: WHY?

WHY IS IT GETTING KILLED?

>> KEEP SAYING IT HURTS PEOPLE'S DIGNITY, YOU KNOW?

THAT'S THE LANGUAGE THEY USE TO KILL THE BILLS.

I JUMP IN ON THE BILLS BECAUSE I'M LIKE, YOU KNOW WHAT?

THE SURVEYORS, THE PEOPLE FROM THE STATE HEALTH DEPARTMENT THAT DO THE INSPECTIONS, THEY'RE ONLY THERE FOR A LITTLE BIT.

THEY'RE NOT THERE ALL THE TIME.

THE REAL COMPLAINTS, I SAW IT FIRSTHAND IN THE COMPLAINT DEPARTMENT, THE REAL COMPLAINT IS FROM THE FAMILY MEMBERS, THEY HAVE TO VISIT OR IF THEY HAD A CAMERA, COULD SEE THEY WEREN'T GETTING SERVICES IN ASSISTED LIVING AND COULD LEAD TO CORRECTIONS, NOT JUST REGULATORYY, BUT THE FAMILY COULD SEE COULD YOU HELP MY MOM DURING THIS TIME PERIOD.

TED: THE MAKEUP OF THE LEGISLATURE THIS GO-AROUND, DO YOU THINK IT HAS A CHANCE?

>> IT HAS A CHANCE.

THERE ARE WILEY LOBBYISTS, I WON'T NAME NAMES BUT I KNOW WHO THEY ARE.

TED: OKAY.

>> WORKING THE OTHER SIDE OF THAT, THERE IS NOBODY PUSHING THAT BILL, NO PAID LOBBYIST HELPING REPRESENTATIVE NGUYEN GET THIS THROUGH.

SO I LIKE TO JUMP IN ON THOSE THINGS WHERE IT'S SOMETHING GOOD AND EXPENSIVE PERSON ISN'T WORKING THAT SIDE OF IT.

TED: DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE, BEFORE YOU GO, A COUPLE SECONDS HERE, BUT WANT TO YOU TALK ABOUT RFK JR., THE CHANGES TO THE CHILDHOOD VACCINE SCHEDULE BY WAY OF THE CDC.

WHAT'S THIS ALL ABOUT?

ARE YOU CONCERNED?

>> REAL QUICK, NO, I'M LESS CONCERNED THAN I THINK MOST PEOPLE IN PUBLIC HEALTH.

REASON IS THIS.

THE WAY KENNEDY DID IT, IT'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE HOW VACCINES GET PAID FOR.

SO ALL THESE VACCINES THAT WERE CHANGED IN THE CHILDHOOD SCHEDULE ARE STILL PAID FOR IN DOCTOR'S OFFICES, AND BEYOND THAT, CLINICIANS ARE NOT GOING TO LISTEN TO SECRETARY KENNEDY.

THEY'RE GOING TO LISTEN TO THE AMERICAN ACADEMY OF PEDIATRICS AND THOSE ARE THE CLINICAL DECISIONS THEY'RE MAKING.

I DON'T THINK THIS IS A HUGE DIFFERENCE IN CHANGE.

WE CAN DO ANOTHER SHOW ON WHAT KENNEDY IS DOING.

THE INFORMATIONAL ASPECT PART OF IT IS BAD.

IN TERMS OF STRUCTURAL VACCINE ACCESSIBILITY, THAT'S GOING TO REMAIN OKAY.

TED: ALL RIGHT WILL HUMBLE, ARIZONA PUBLIC HEALTH ASSOCIATION, FORMER STATE HEALTH DIRECTOR.

GOOD TO HAVE YOU HERE.

>> MY PLEASURE.

TED: ALL RIGHT.

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TED: ADVERTISEMENTS USING A.I.

HAVE BEEN USED TO SELL PRODUCTS AND SERVICES ONLINE, SOMETIMES TRICKING CUSTOMERS BY ALTERING PRODUCTS TO MAKE THEM APPEAR TO BE BETTER QUALITY THAN THEY REALLY ARE.

TO BEST RECOGNIZE A.I.

IN ADS, WE WELCOME JOE DUCEY, BUSINESS AND CONSUMER SPECIALIST FOR THE BETTER BUSINESS BUREAU.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

>> TED, GLAD TO BE BACK.

TED: A.I.

BEING USED TO SELL PRODUCTS AND SERVICES ONLINE HOW?

>> YEAH, IT'S REALLY INTERESTING BECAUSE IT CAN SELL -- WE'VE HAD PROBLEMS INVOLVING PRODUCTS DURING CHRISTMAS THAT WERE SOLD THIS WAY.

WE'VE HAD CELEBRITY ISSUES THAT WERE CAUSED BY A.I., AND I'M GOING TO GO INTO THAT IN A MINUTE.

THE BB WAS FORMED BECAUSE OF DECEPTIVE ADVERTISING.

YOU DID KNOW THAT.

TED: YEAH.

>> 1912 TO RESTORE ETHICAL STANDARDS IN THE MARKETPLACE, A SUMMARY FROM A.I.

[ LAUGHTER ] THERE ARE GOOD THINGS ABOUT A.I., RIGHT?

TED: GIVE ME AN EXAMPLE OF THE THINGS YOU FOUND WHERE A.I.

IS SAYING IT'S X WHEN IT'S REALLY Y?

>> IN THE PAST, THERE'S CELEBRITY SCAMS LIKE ENDORSEMENTS, RIGHT?

IN THE PAST THEY'VE HAD TO BASICALLY WEIGHT LOSS PRODUCTS OR SUPPLEMENTS THAT AFFECT YOUR BRAIN OR WHATEVER IT IS, THEY WOULD SAY OPRAH OR DR.

OZ OR SANJAY GUPTA SUPPORTED IT, AND THEY WERE TRICKY BECAUSE THEY PIECE TOGETHER THINGS AND THEN, YOU KNOW, OPRAH WOULD HAVE TO SAY I DON'T ENDORSE THAT THING.

NOW THEY'RE ABLE TO TAKE THE IMAGES AND GETTING COMPLAINTS OF IMAGES THAT LOOK LIKE THE PERSON AND IT LOOKS MUCH BETTER.

IT LOOKS LIKE IT'S THE PERSON TALKING.

SO THAT'S A PROBLEM BECAUSE IT LOOKS MORE REAL, RIGHT?

AND THE ATTORNEY GENERAL RECENTLY JOINED 34 OTHER ATTORNEYS GENERAL IN GOING AFTER META, WHICH OWNS FACEBOOK AND INSTAGRAM, FOR SOME OF THESE ISSUES, BASICALLY, CELEBRITIES, BUT ALSO WEIGHT LOSS PRODUCTS AND THINGS THAT ARE SOLD THEY SAY DECEPTIVELY.

THEY WERE CONCENTRATING ON NOT LISTING SIDE EFFECTS BUT THEY ALSO TALK ABOUT A.I.

I TOOK A LOOK AT A VIDEO OF A WOMAN, 203 POUNDS SHE LOST IN THREE WEEKS.

TED: WHAT?

>> THAT'S WHAT YOU SHOULD BE SAYING, WHAT?

TED: 203 IN THREE WEEKS?

>> AND THEY SHOW HER GOING SMALLER AND SMALLER AND IT'S SO QUICK YOU CAN'T SEE IT.

THAT'S THE PROBLEM WITH THE THINGS, YOU CAN'T SEE THEM.

IF YOU SLOW IT DOWN, TAKE IT FRAME BY FRAME, YOU CAN SEE THINGS THAT ARE WRONG.

FINGERNAILS ON BACKWARDS.

EYES THAT DON'T MOVE PROPERLY.

IF YOU REALLY WANT TO GET INTO IT, THERE ARE WAYS TO FIND IT OUT.

TED: THAT'S A CELEBRITY ENDORSEMENT, HUMAN INTERACTION.

AS FAR AS PRODUCTS, MAKING THE PRODUCTS LOOK BIGGER, SMALLER, SHINIER, IT'S ALL OVER THE PLACE.

>> IT IS ALL OVER THE PLACE, AND THE CELEBRITIES ARE SELLING THE PRODUCT.

BUT WE HAD COMPLAINTS COMING IN AROUND CHRISTMAS WHERE IF YOU WATCH YouTube, HAVE YOU SEEN IT.

CUTE LITTLE DOG THAT LOOKS ACTUALLY PRETTY REAL.

IF YOU LOOK AT THE AD ON THERE, THE DOG -- THERE'S A LITTLE GIRL AND THE DOG MOVES ITS HEAD AND THE LITTLE GIRL, FOR EMOTIONAL SUPPORT.

JUST MOVES THE WAY AN ANIMAL MIGHT.

PEOPLE GET THIS THING AND IT'S NOTHING LIKE IT.

SPEND WHATEVER AMOUNT OF MONEY.

PRODUCT PEOPLE ARE RECEIVING DOES NOT COME CLOSE TO RESEMBLING WHAT'S IN THE AD.

LIFE LIKE ROBOTIC DOG, RECEIVED TWO USELESS TOYS WORTH ABOUT FIVE BUCKS.

TED: MY GOODNESS.

>> THEY'RE GETTING THESE THINGS, MAKING IT LOOK LIKE IT'S A WONDERFUL PRODUCT, AND IN THIS CASE, A LITTLE YAPPY THING, YOU PUT TWO AA BATTERIES IN.

HERE'S THE THING.

20 BUCKS IS WHAT THIS WENT FOR.

SO THAT'S -- I DON'T REALLY LIKE USING TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE, BECAUSE IT SEEMS VERY TRITE, BUT IT WORKS SO WELL.

TED: BRINGS ME TO THE NEXT QUESTION, MR.

BBB FROM 1912.

WHAT'S YOUR THOUGHTS, ADVICE BESIDE TOO GOOD TO BE TRUE FOR FOLKS ONLINE AND THINKING, I WONDER IF I'M IN A.I.

COUNTRY HERE?

>> DEPENDS HOW FAR YOU WANT TO GO.

YOU WANT TO GO DOWN THE RABBIT HOLE.

THERE ARE THINGS ONLINE YOU CAN TAKE THE VIDEO AND BREAK IT DOWN INTO 300 SEGMENTS AND SEE HOW THE VIDEO LOOKS.

I WOULD GO TO TRUSTED SITES.

MOST OF OUR COMPLAINTS COME FROM SOCIAL MEDIA.

IF IT HAPPENS TO BE A CELEBRITY ENDORSING SOMETHING, GO TO THEIR SITE TO SEE IF THEY'RE SAYING THESE THINGS AND DOESN'T COME FROM THE ADVERTISING SITE.

IF YOU'RE SPENDING $20, MAKE COMPARISONS.

WHAT DOES A ROBOTIC DOG COST?

LOOK IT UP.

FIND OUT.

IT'S GOING TO BE HUNDREDS OF DOLLARS IF IT'S INTUITIVE, NOT 20 BUCKS.

THOSE ARE THE THINGS PEOPLE NEED TO DO IS FIND OUT BEFOREHAND.

ALSO ONE MORE THING, USE A CREDIT CARD IF YOU HAVE TO BUY SOMETHING BECAUSE YOU HAVE -- CAN YOU FIGHT IT LATER.

SOME OF THESE PLACES TELL YOU TO WIRE MONEY OR TO VENMO, WHICH GOES RIGHT INTO YOUR BANK ACCOUNT AND THE MONEY IS GONE.

TED: GIFT CARDS, BITCOIN, WARNING SIGNS?

>> WITH GIFT CARDS.

>> SCAMMERS SAY YOU HAVE TO PAY THROUGH THIS WITH A GIFT CARD ONLY OR BITCOIN.

>> IF ANYBODY SAYS PAY WITH A GIFT CARD, BAD.

CRYPTO, THEY'RE USING IT AS INVESTMENT SCAM, I DON'T THINK ENOUGH PEOPLE KNOW ABOUT IT, DON'T DO THAT AS WELL.

I WOULD USE A CREDIT CARD, AND YOU HAVE SECURED CARDS IF YOU CAN'T GET A CREDIT CARD, USE THAT INSTEAD OF ANYTHING ELSE BECAUSE THAT ACTUALLY YOU CAN FIGHT LATER.

TED: LAST QUESTION, IS THIS SOMETHING GOVERNMENT NEEDS TO LOOK AT AS FAR AS REGULATIONS?

IS IT BARELY CONTROLLABLE?

YES, BUYER BEWARE BUT SOME BUYERS DON'T BEWARE VERY WELL.

>> I DON'T KNOW.

I DON'T KNOW HOW WELL THE INTERNET IS REGULATED RIGHT NOW.

I DON'T KNOW WHERE THAT'S GOING, YOU KNOW, AS A CONSUMER ADVOCATE, YEAH, I THINK SOMEBODY NEEDS TO BE DONE.

I SEE SO MANY PEOPLE FALLING FOR THIS STUFF.

EVEN IF IT'S 20 OR $30 OR $100.

ALL THESE PEOPLE SPENDING THAT AMOUNT OF MONEY, IT'S BAD, AND A LOT MORE THAN THAT WHEN IT COMES TO OTHER PRODUCTS.

TED: A LOT OF PEOPLE THAT CAN'T AFFORD, JUST BUYING THAT IS A BIG GIFT FOR PEOPLE.

>> IT IS.

ONE OF THE PROBLEMS IS SOCIAL MEDIA FEEDS, THAT'S IT.

THROUGH FACEBOOK, INSTAGRAM.

SEEING THESE THINGS THERE AND DON'T KNOW THE WEBSITE THEY'RE GOING TO, AND IF THEY LOOKED ADD THE DOG THE NAME OF IT, I ORDERED ONE, GOING TO BRING IT OUT HERE, GOING TO INVITE ME BACK?

IF YOU LOOKED IT UP, YOU SEE COMPLAINTS ALL OVER.

GO TO BBB.ORG, SCAM TRACKER, PUT THE NAME IN, THAT'S A SCAM, I'M NOT GOING TO ORDER THAT.

TED: BBB.ORG, YOU HAVE A SCAM TRACKER.

>> AND JOE KNOWS BETTER.COM.

>> JOE DUCEY, THANK YOU FOR JOINING US, GREAT HAVING YOU HERE.

>> THANK YOU.

TED: THAT IS IT FOR NOW.

I'M TED SIMONS.

THANK YOU FOR JOINING US.

YOU HAVE A GREAT EVENING.